Vacationing Italian in prison for slapping his child

Putting people in jail is inhumane punishment. How are people supposed to somehow conform to regular society when they constantly live in fear of being separated from their family, friends, etc? The police should have instead taken away this Italian man's Playstation privileges for a week, given him a hug, and let him know that it's perfectly okay to feel angry about his 12-year-old kid randomly running off in a large foreign city.
 
Uhm as I watched this on tv I understood: father slapped the boy because he crossed the streets, running away from his family, without keeping an eye on cars coming his way, pretty much it.
Well I agree, slapping constantly a child is not a good thing, but in some situations when a child is constantly not giving a shit about order and respect, a little slap won't hurt you.
I received from my dad something like 4 slaps in my entire childhood, and I tell ya I'm not traumatized, and of course I deserved that for what I've done... once I put something on fire in my kitchen lol.
I guess sending him to jail is a bit too much.
Not arguing the way people teach kids in sweden, but what should have I said when I saw back in 2004 in stockholm a couple of swedish parents letting their 1 year old little boy running away from them and not giving a shit?
Called the police ? yelling at them "shitty parents"? no dude I didn't and I didn't care.
That little child could have died falling from a stairway with no protection (just a handrail that was taller than him) in skeppsholmen ?
That wasn't the first time I saw something like that in a northern country, seems like parents in scandinavian countries are not apprehensive as over here, somehing that over here is seen as something not so good, something as "you don't give a shit about your child".
Anyway nothing against swedes, they're lovely people as Ola proved to be when I met him.
I think thing is exagerated.
 
Putting people in jail is inhumane punishment. How are people supposed to somehow conform to regular society when they constantly live in fear of being separated from their family, friends, etc? The police should have instead taken away this Italian man's Playstation privileges for a week, given him a hug, and let him know that it's perfectly okay to feel angry about his 12-year-old kid randomly running off in a large foreign city.

hahahaha, dude, that made my day.
 
You should never hit your child and that's it. There are other ways to "correct" bad behavior.

Wrong. There is no universal "right" way to raise a child. In my opinion, you have to be clear about your expectations (I'm taking for granted that they're realistic/reasonable) and do what works to meet them.

My son does not respond to any sort of corporal discipline, so we don't use it. He hates to be removed from what he's doing, so that works perfectly as punishment for unacceptable behavior. As a result of having very clear and simple behavioral expectations, and enforcing them as necessary, we have a pretty happy and well-behaved 2 year old.
 
A slap has never killed kids...I think it depends by the cause and the situation but nowadays it seems that slapping a kid that wanna do what he want the whole fucking day is a terrible crime.
Fuck that! That's the reason why nowadays kids are a bunch of assholes that don't know at all how to live. Parents let the kids do what they want....practicaly they can't be parents anymore.
If you're a parent you deserve respect because you have to EDUCATE your children and if SOMETIMES (not everyday for every single thing he does, of course) it requires a slap...... and you've not to be his fucking friend the whole time.
Of course you don't have to hit your childrens without a reason...I was slapped by my father when I was a kid and I immediately understood that he slapped me for a right reason and the next time I knew VERY WELL that I didn't have to do that thing. Moreover you have to explain well to the kid why he doens't have to do THAT thing.....only slapping is a waste of time.
Anyway I was in Stockholm since yesterday and what I saw was an enormous amount of childrens...this is an awesome thing. But I think it's not different than here...in my opinion the "slapping" exists in Sweden too but maybe it's not done outside home. You have to think also that Stockholm is not Naples, Rome or Milan...it's way way way more safe so you have to think we come there with our "fears". In Stockholm you could walk alone in the streets in the middle of the night or go in the subway with no problems, where here you could risk to be stabbed or raped etc...
I think I would have done the same thing of that father...with the difference that I would have slapped also the moron who called the police.
 
Putting people in jail is inhumane punishment. How are people supposed to somehow conform to regular society when they constantly live in fear of being separated from their family, friends, etc? The police should have instead taken away this Italian man's Playstation privileges for a week, given him a hug, and let him know that it's perfectly okay to feel angry about his 12-year-old kid randomly running off in a large foreign city.

Dude I'm like a little gay for you right now
 
Some children don't respond to some forms of punishment, a good parent will figure out what works for each situation that is within reasonable grounds. A good parent also has to determine if the child is simply doing what they want and don't realize what they are doing is wrong OR if they are acting out due to emotional reasons, in which punishing acting out is shitty parenting because the acting out was due to neglect. Punishing children that behave a certain way because they are neglected in some way is shitty parenting.

A good parent uses the appropriate tools of punishment to their disposal and talks to their child, lets them know why what they did was bad, when they get older and see it first hand from other peers they then realize why their parents tried to teach them why it was wrong, whether it be manners, general social skills, etc. Punishment serves to not only instill respect to the parent but to also curb unwanted behavior with some form of punishment that the child does not like, whether it be an undesired sensation, or some other stimulation or lack of stimulation (taking things away etc). A child that is disciplined appropriately grows up understanding why their parents disciplined them and if they did have good parents, go on as adults being thankful for how their parents raised them and realized it was a tough love.

And to the guys that made mention of friends that cower in fear to the thought of being hit, they had shit for parents. The point of physical punishment is not to fear being hit, their parents did not do it right. Shitty parents will be shitty parents regardless of their method of punishment. Don't blame the punishment on shitty parents.
 
I'm too lazy to read the whole thread but i will just say what one of you surely already said:

Resorting to violence is a sign of intellectual and emotional weakness.
 
^^... disagree! A child won't understand intellectual reasoning that they did something wrong until their abilities to reason grow as they do. But kids DO understand, "oh that hurt/ was uncomfortable" etc. A small smack etc will register ad BAD simple...
 
^^... disagree! A child won't understand intellectual reasoning that they did something wrong until their abilities to reason grow as they do. But kids DO understand, "oh that hurt/ was uncomfortable" etc. A small smack etc will register ad BAD simple...

The logical conclusion of this is to hit a kid for everything they do wrong when their small because they wont understand any other way :zombie: and then slowly stop as they get older . Fucked up.

Violence has no place in love (except maybe particularly energetic sex haha)