Very sad......

[Imagikafan]

I was wondering when this "news" would make it's way to this forum...

First off, my disdain for PoS as a band is fairly evident to those who know me. I just don't care for them. They (with the exception of DG, whom I didn't meet) seem like cool guys, and are excellent musicians, I just don't like what they do with their talent. I've bought a couple of their cds, seen them at every Prog Power, and they still don't do a damn thing for me, as a music
fan.

I do feel bad for their fans here in the US, who are left out of a planned tour for something this petty. I should rejoice over the fact that this will open up a slot @ Prog Power every couple of years for a band that might WANT to play here.

If I were to travel to another country, I wouldn't give a rats ass if the wanted finger prints, toe, prints, dna, whatever. I wouldn't expect the same freedom of movement I have here, if I visited Sweden OR Iran. When we got caught with our pants down a few years ago, it was based on forged passports, DLs, and lax security. A fingerprint or a retina scan is a fairly foolproof way to verify one's identity. Times change, this is the world we ALL have to live in, and it probably isn't going to change any time soon, no matter who is running this country.

I would also be bitching in the same way if this was Gamma Ray, Freak Kitchen, or any other band I liked, or even disliked. It my humble opinion that DG is 1) Making a real bad decision 2) is a complete egomaniac, and 3) must be suffering some kind of delusion that he's either Bono or the Pope.

It's FINE for him to stick with his beliefs, but couldn't he publicize his agenda thru words/music, and maybe get his ideals across to a lot of people here by DOING the tour?

The die hard PoS lemmings will cheer this and make him a "martyr". Maybe even make him the patron saint of Prog. To me, he's just being selfish, and keeping his fellow band members from obtaining some financial & musical success, here in the States. Now wait, there's an idea! Let the rest of the guys from PoS come over WITHOUT Danny Boy. Hell, maybe then they'd be worth a listen

Amen, brother.

 

[Kenneth R.]

where do you draw the line then, all you security mongers who love to sacrifice your freedoms? how much is too far for you? i'd like to know.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

Its funny how people livng in the US that are from other countries try to justify their own beliefs and points of views while condeming the US policies and procedures that have had to be put in place because of what happened on 9/11. Simply put and I will say it until I am blue in the face, if you don't like what you see here, get the fuck out. Your lucky to be living , working and going to school in the US.

Bear

Amen, to you Brother! I'd like to see how many veterans would like to hear Silent Song say it disgusts him to see American flags on cars. Whatever silly reason he stated as to why he was disgusted. And as for AngraRULES, I remember Derek Sherinian, while he was in Malmsteen's band, played a show in Brazil and when Yngwie played a few notes of the Star Spangled Banner, he said the crowd chanted OSAMA! OSAMA! OSAMA! So don't tell me how sorry all of Brazil is for 9/11. It's easy for foreignersw to condemn the U.S. After all, it wasn't their country that was attacked. Everytime a catastrophe happens in this world, the world looks to the U.S. for aid. Where was the aid from other countries when those poor people in florida got nailed by 3 hurricanes in 5 weeks? Where was the foreign aid during the massive flooding in the Midwest in the 90's? We are the greatest country on this planet. We've saved it in two world wars and removed a dictator in Iraq that threw live people into plastic shredders, gassed his OWN people. Men, women, and children. His cohorts raped women at will. Starved his country while he lived in gold palaces. He was a dictator and dictators are never satisfied with what they have. Stalin, Hitler, Napoleon. All wanted to conquer the world. So I say like Bear said so well. If you don't like it here, fucking leave. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

 

[Bear]

Ok, then I propose this plan: Why don't we cut off the hands of all forgeiners entering the US? That way they won't have any hands to be able to set bombs, drive cars, etc. Pretty fail safe I think, and you did say we need to do whatever it is, no matter how extreme, right?

Yeah thats a good one, keep em coming bright boy!!!

Bear

 

[AngraRULES]

And as for AngraRULES, I remember Derek Sherinian, while he was in Malmsteen's band, played a show in Brazil and when Yngwie played a few notes of the Star Spangled Banner, he said the crowd chanted OSAMA! OSAMA! OSAMA! So don't tell me how sorry all of Brazil is for 9/11.

Again.. Are you gonna use that event as an example of how much my country cared about 9/11? Something that happened once, with some 150 people probably most drunk at a metal concert?

Jesus fucking Christ... Why don't you go use an example that can actually support what you're trying to say?

So much bullshit, I can't even believe what I just read....

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

The "if you don't like it, fucking leave" attitude is so stupid. That just destroys the whole concept of freedom of speech and democracy. We can criticize some ways where we think the government acts inappropriately and still be respectful towards the loss in 9/11, and the other losses America faces. Just because a tragedy occurred doesn't give certain people a free ticket to push through their agenda and say "anyone who doesn't like it can leave." Dissent is the best way to be a patriotic American, because that's why America was founded.

 

[Kenneth R.]

not to mention that Yngwie Malmsteen is not even American, nor is he a shining example of anything at all except technical wankery, which has nothing to do with the state of affairs in any country.

 

[Kenneth R.]

The "if you don't like it, fucking leave" attitude is so stupid. That just destroys the whole concept of freedom of speech and democracy. We can criticize some ways where we think the government acts inappropriately and still grieve the loss in 9/11. Just because a tragedy occurred doesn't give certain people a free ticket to push through their agenda and say "anyone who doesn't like it can leave." Dissent is the best way to be a patriotic American, because that's why America was founded.

YES.

 

[AngraRULES]

The "if you don't like it, fucking leave" attitude is so stupid. That just destroys the whole concept of freedom of speech and democracy. We can criticize some ways where we think the government acts inappropriately and still grieve the loss in 9/11. Just because a tragedy occurred doesn't give certain people a free ticket to push through their agenda and say "anyone who doesn't like it can leave." Dissent is the best way to be a patriotic American, because that's why America was founded.

Very well said, Bark... Very well said...

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

Why is it stupid? If someone bitches about where they are and they're unhappy, then the solution is to leave. Makes sense. Apparently things must be better elsewhere. They can go there then.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

not to mention that Yngwie Malmsteen is not even American, nor is he a shining example of anything at all except technical wankery, which has nothing to do with the state of affairs in any country.

It was Derek Sherinian who told the story. He is American. Pay attention.

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

While the crowd's shenigans at the Yngwie concert were inappropriate....and don't represent Brazil, Yngwie's response was just childish, which is what we've come to expect from him, apparently. Anytime something happens not to his liking, he let's out with the "fyook you, you stupid fyookers, fyooking fyookin' dumbasses, shut up before I release the fyookin' fury."

 

[AngraRULES]

Why is it stupid? If someone bitches about where they are and they're unhappy, then the solution is to leave. Makes sense. Apparently things must be better elsewhere. They can go there then.

You don't have to like 100% the place you live in. You make it sound like you're forced to like it, otherwise get the fuck out.... How about your freedom of not having to agree 100% with the government and its policies and ideals?

 

[AngraRULES]

While the crowd's shenigans at the Yngwie concert were inappropriate....and don't represent Brazil, Yngwie's response was just childish, which is what we've come to expect from him, apparently. Anytime something happens not to his liking, he let's out with the "fyook you, you stupid fyookers, fyooking fyookin' dumbasses, shut up before I release the fyookin' fury."

Not to mention that he was drunk and probably don't remember a thing about it. And by the way, the person who started this whole thing, telling the whole story was Yngwie, and NOT Derek.

 

[Kenneth R.]

unlike you emerald sword, i choose to fight rather than to run away. this is the country i was born in, and i have the right to the freedoms and decrees granted by the founding fathers. if you support the corruption of those ideals, so be it. but i for one do NOT. and i for one will fight against them. i for one will stand against them.

if you do not believe in protest, you do not believe in the constitution.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

You don't have to like 100% the place you live in. You make it sound like you're forced to like it, otherwise get the fuck out.... How about your freedom of not having to agree 100% with the government and its policies and ideals?

Forced to like what?

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

Why is it stupid? If someone bitches about where they are and they're unhappy, then the solution is to leave. Makes sense. Apparently things must be better elsewhere. They can go there then.

This other misconception is that because people are concerned about how their government is run, and say so if they don't think something is right....(it is the people's government after all), that they're automatically "unhappy" with the country, or don't like the country. That's what the great thing about America is, you can love your country, and make suggestions for how it should be run better. You really need to get rid of your connection between "not liking the way the current administration runs the government" and "hating America and not being happy here." No administration of the United States "is the country." There's a big difference.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

unlike you emerald sword, i choose to fight rather than to run away. this is the country i was born in, and i have the right to the freedoms and decrees granted by the founding fathers. if you support the corruption of those ideals, so be it. but i for one do NOT. and i for one will fight against them. i for one will stand against them.

if you do not believe in protest, you do not believe in the constitution.

Fight for what? Is there another civil war I'm not aware of? I think you need some anger management. So much hostility in such a young man.

 

[AngraRULES]

Forced to like what?

Forced to like your country no matter what's wrong with it.
Forced to like every single step the government decides to take.
Forced to accept and like every single policy the government creates.

Barking Pumpkin is right. There's a difference between hating and being unhappy here to not agreeing with the decisions and policies of the country.

I am happy to live here. I am very grateful to be able to live in this country. However, I don't have to like some of its policies and the way the country is run.

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

Not to mention that he was drunk and probably don't remember a thing about it. And by the way, the person who started this whole thing, telling the whole story was Yngwie, and NOT Derek.

I think you better check your sources. It WAS Derek.