VFTSG vs. TFB

Mantis

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Now it's quite a long time that I hear most of vintersorg's fan and not (not on this forum) saying that Visions is better than Focusing and someone also gets to the point to say that Focusing is only a copycat of Visions, that has no innovation as you have from Cosmic to Vision or from Hedniskhjertad to Odemarkens son what you say?
 
In my opinion, yau cannot combine VftSG with TFB. Musically Visions... is far more electronic or better synthie-like while the focusing blur is more experimental and progressive. I see both albums as unique products.


Sorry, I'm not feeling that good right now, maybe I post another statement some other day... ;)
 
I feel that these two albums are different and alike in certain ways. I think Visions is better because the songwriting flows better, while still being complex.

Focusing Blur has even more complexity, but the songs dont flow as well.

And each album has a different overall tone and vibe.
 
Both kick ass to me, in 2 very different ways, but not-so-different at the same time.

V was mindblowing with both, and as a bassist, I drool everytime I hear Steve DiGiorgio's wizardry.

Some people will say The Focusing Blur has a more "straight forward" touch, but in my opinion, that's only a part of its complexity. Like a mask. It would also explain the title, the Focus being the more "direct" musicallity and the Blur being "there's actually more to it, the focus isn't done yet". There is 2 main ways in which I understand the title:

1- The Focusing Blur as a standing paradox being the more direct one, but as it is, pretty meaningless on its own. There again, to me this is a proof that the album itself has much more to it than we might think.

2- The Focusing Blur as space, the Cosmos itself, by naked eye or through a lens. So big it remains Blurry and pretty much impossible to understand, but the Human Mind is there, trying to Focus in on this immense and maginificient Blur.



On the other hand, Vision from the Spiral Generator has its "wtf" kind of feel put more in evidence, kind of a disclaimer from Mr V "yea, I did something a bit nuts but it still rocks". Through this, VftSG is, to me, more direct than TFB can be. And the title, Vision from the Spiral Generator, can be interpreted in many ways, but 2 ways stick out to view:

1- The spiral generator being a particle accelerator, giving off visions of the infinitely small (particle accelerator have "trace boards" where the the particles, accelerated to or near to the speed of light leave spiral like "fingerprints" )

2- The spiral generator can be seen as the Human Mind, given that we make the link to the famed Golden Spiral, the visual representation of the Golden Number, debated to be the sources of all life and consciousness. It would then be "vision from the human mind".


So as you can see, both albums would be much opposed in a way, VftSG dealing with particles, the Infinitely Small, and TFB dealing with the cosmos, the Infinitely Big. Both albums do link togheter at a point. That is, they both deal of the exploration of unknown concepts by the human mind, and that is, as I'm sure most will know, the base of all of Mr V's inspiration for those last two albums, and part of Cosmic Genesis also.


I'd like Mr. V. himself to comment my analysis, see how he likes it ;)

Hear that great V? :D
 
I like Focusing Blur better. Every song is an utter masterpiece and the album is the perfect length and it's the album that got me into Vintersorg. Visions is amazing also, but it feels too short.
 
karpsmom said:
I like Focusing Blur better. Every song is an utter masterpiece and the album is the perfect length and it's the album that got me into Vintersorg. Visions is amazing also, but it feels too short.

that is very true
 
both albums had to 'grow' on me after first listens, especially TFB. even though they're not really that different, musically, as you pointed out. but my vote would go to TFB, probably due to the genius lyrics, such as Blindsight Complexity and Microscopical Macrocosmos.
or perhaps it's just because Visions has a few Swedish songs (which are, of course, despite the swedish lyrics, masterpieces too)

:D

Anyway, i'm pretty sure we can expect another album-to-album innovation (as you call it) with Solens Rotter! (yeah sorry i don't know how to spell it correctly)
 
Azzor1911 said:
Anyway, i'm pretty sure we can expect another album-to-album innovation (as you call it) with Solens Rotter! (yeah sorry i don't know how to spell it correctly)

I'm also wandering how's developped v's music since TFB, the swedish title makes me dream about a fusion of the "swedish" albums with the new sounds of his last 2/3 albums
 
Mantis said:
I'm also wandering how's developped v's music since TFB, the swedish title makes me dream about a fusion of the "swedish" albums with the new sounds of his last 2/3 albums

Well, it's hard to say how the album will sound exactly...but we've moved on with the recording now and I'm doing guitars again now..as I wasn't satisfied with the guitars sound that was set and recorded..so I'm just two tracks into the the album..but I'll complete it in a short while..then Mattias will do his part and..and ..and

mr V