Vintersorg and Politics

iAMtheblackwizards said:
Dont disagree with me? are you batshit insane?! he put 88 at the end of his quote, making it Hail Hitler, who maybe if you forgot you fucking history but HITLRE KILLED 6,000,000 JEWS FOR BEING JEWISH, AND IM JEWISH, SO THEREFORE I DO NOT THINK I WOULD BE SO OPEN MINDED TOWARDS THIS DISPLAY OF HATE.

see i can do the caps lock thing too, people are allowed to not be jewish and what not, but for fuck's sake man, dont you think youre being a little unrealistic here?



For the sake of conversation, we will call today's lesson JEWISH MATH.

I happened to come back, and please dont ask me why (even though my question was answered promptly)? I noticed that my little friend there has done what we like to call JEWISH MATH. If my memory (as well as the historians who have studied for years the holohoax) 6 MILLION people died in what is called the Holocaust. Now my question to you my little Talmub thumpping friend, How did you get 6 Million jews? If history says 6 Million people died, and the jew says 6 million Jews died, WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE POLES, GYPIES, RETARDS, HANDICAPPED, FRENCH, POW'S, and a whole slew of people your Bastard Children of Satan's people left out? I also recall, that Stalin killed 12 million of his own country men, mostly being Jewish. For God's sake, besides Israel, Russia was the only place collectively to have 6 million Jews living there. If i came here and was a communist and said "Comrads, I saw that Vintersorg was featured on Resistance.com, what are their politics? Fight and Die for the Red Star!" would you have blown up? I dont think so.

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Nick
 
Sorath said:
So you people aren't interested in that "everyone should be able to think what they want etc" crap?

Oh, he can think whatever the hell he wants to think. As long as he doesn't talk about it in my house.

Now, I know I don't own ultimatemetal, or even the vintersorg forum. But as a group of vintersorg fans, this is our "home" to an extent. And, none of us want that crap here.

OK, all he did was ask a question about vintersorg. And we bit his head off for it. Frankly, I don't mind being impolite about it once in a while...

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Nick-skin1488 said:
If my memory (as well as the historians who have studied for years the holohoax) 6 MILLION people died in what is called the Holocaust. Now my question to you my little Talmub thumpping friend, How did you get 6 Million jews? If history says 6 Million people died, and the jew says 6 million Jews died, WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE POLES, GYPIES, RETARDS, HANDICAPPED, FRENCH, POW'S, and a whole slew of people your Bastard Children of Satan's people left out? I also recall, that Stalin killed 12 million of his own country men, mostly being Jewish.

Actually, I believe that 12 million people died in the holocaust, and 6 milllion of those were Jewish. And BlackWizards is not saying that fucknut didn't kill anyone else.

As for Stalin, I believe the Russians lost closer to 20 or 25 million people just in the war. He did kill many Jews in the pogroms, but that wasn't necessarily a WWII event. Hell, that started before Stalin's time. And he also killed millions of "normal" russians just fo the hell of it. He's no friend of anyone, Jews included.

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I was hopeing as much as well. But some people thrive on causing discord between people. You missed it when Misanthrope took an interest in this forum. He spent all his time just trying to get everybody angry... and he succeeded. It looks like it was back in May and June of '02.

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Sorath said:
Personally I am not tolerant or pro-tolerance in any way, but I think that people who claim to be at least should give it a try.

yea that was kind of the point. I cant say i am either, that was just a quote from my History teacher. Maybe i should have said that (lol).
 
The Nomad said:
I was hopeing as much as well. But some people thrive on causing discord between people. You missed it when Misanthrope took an interest in this forum. He spent all his time just trying to get everybody angry... and he succeeded. It looks like it was back in May and June of '02.

Well that was also kind of my point when i said it was immature to bite his head of for asking a question. Pissing him off won't make him go away, so why not just answer the question in a polite way?

To be honest i think he got the reaction he wanted.
 
iAMtheblackwizards said:
Dont disagree with me? are you batshit insane?! he put 88 at the end of his quote, making it Hail Hitler, who maybe if you forgot you fucking history but HITLRE KILLED 6,000,000 JEWS FOR BEING JEWISH, AND IM JEWISH, SO THEREFORE I DO NOT THINK I WOULD BE SO OPEN MINDED TOWARDS THIS DISPLAY OF HATE.

see i can do the caps lock thing too, people are allowed to not be jewish and what not, but for fuck's sake man, dont you think youre being a little unrealistic here?

I am aware of the fact that Hitler killed lots of jews, yes. Does that make prejudices OK?
I'm not saying you can't hate nazis, I'm just saying that hating people because of their political views is prejudice if anything. And, as I ahve said many times, I myself find prejudices, be they racial, political or whatever, to be the spices of life.
 
Sorath said:
I am aware of the fact that Hitler killed lots of jews, yes. Does that make prejudices OK?
I'm not saying you can't hate nazis, I'm just saying that hating people because of their political views is prejudice if anything. And, as I ahve said many times, I myself find prejudices, be they racial, political or whatever, to be the spices of life.

See, when jews hate Nazis, its not really their political views we are hating too much, its more of a stance on their views of us (and others that are not like them) that we hate. If someone wants to be a nationalist, thats one thing, and thats all well and good, i mean i love the country i live in, so by all definitions of the term, i am a nationalist, but to use it as a guise to hate a race of people for having a different belief than you, thats something completely different.
 
People are allowed to hate me for any reason they like, and I don't hate them back automatically. Maybe it's genetic.
My grandmother is finnish and huge parts of my family was tortured and slain by the soviets. I do hate communists, but I know I'm prejudiced and admit to being just that, as you should if you want me to stop bugging you. As I said, I'm not saying you can't hate (hate=good), I'm just saying you shouldn't claim to be something you're not (In this case, [politically] tolerant).
 
I never claimed to be politically tolerant, but my point is that this has less to do with politics than it does with prejudices. I have nothing against nationalists or socialists (which is what the nazi party is), and when i refer to nazis, i am referring to the people who hate jews for being jews, not national socialists from a political stand point