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New York Times- An internal memo sent to Wal-Mart's board of directors proposes numerous ways to hold down spending on health care and other benefits while seeking to minimize damage to the retailer's reputation. Among the recommendations are hiring more part-time workers and discouraging unhealthy people from working at Wal-Mart.

In the memorandum, M. Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart's executive vice president for benefits, also recommends reducing 401(k) contributions and wooing younger, and presumably healthier, workers by offering education benefits. The memo voices concern that workers with seven years' seniority earn more than workers with one year's seniority, but are no more productive.

To discourage unhealthy job applicants, Ms. Chambers suggests that Wal-Mart arrange for "all jobs to include some physical activity (e.g., all cashiers do some cart-gathering)."

The memo acknowledged that Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, had to walk a fine line in restraining benefit costs because critics had attacked it for being stingy on wages and health coverage. Ms. Chambers acknowledged that 46 percent of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million United States employees were uninsured or on Medicaid.

Wal-Mart executives said the memo was part of an effort to rein in benefit costs, which to Wall Street's dismay have soared by 15 percent a year on average since 2002. Like much of corporate America, Wal-Mart has been squeezed by soaring health costs. The proposed plan, if approved, would save the company more than $1 billion a year by 2011.

In an interview, Ms. Chambers said she was focusing not on cutting costs, but on serving employees better by giving them more choices on their benefits.

"We are investing in our benefits that will take even better care of our associates," she said. "Our benefit plan is known today as being generous."

Ms. Chambers also said that she made her recommendations after surveying employees about how they felt about the benefits plan. "This is not about cutting," she said. "This is about redirecting savings to another part of their benefit plans."

One proposal would reduce the amount of time, from two years to one, that part-time employees would have to wait before qualifying for health insurance. Another would put health clinics in stores, in part to reduce expensive employee visits to emergency rooms. Wal-Mart's benefit costs jumped to $4.2 billion last year, from $2.8 billion three years earlier, causing concern within the company because benefits represented an increasing share of sales. Last year, Wal-Mart earned $10.5 billion on sales of $285 billion.

A draft memo to Wal-Mart's board was obtained from Wal-Mart Watch, a nonprofit group, allied with labor unions, that asserts that Wal-Mart's pay and benefits are too low. Tracy Sefl, a spokeswoman for Wal-Mart Watch, said someone mailed the document anonymously to her group last month. When asked about the memo, Wal-Mart officials made available the updated copy that actually went to the board.

Under fire because less than 45 percent of its workers receive company health insurance, Wal-Mart announced a new plan on Monday that seeks to increase participation by allowing some employees to pay just $11 a month in premiums. Some health experts praised the plan for making coverage more affordable, but others criticized it, noting that full-time Wal-Mart employees, who earn on average around $17,500 a year, could face out-of-pocket expenses of $2,500 a year or more.

Eager to burnish Wal-Mart's image as it faces opposition in trying to expand into New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, Wal-Mart's chief executive, H. Lee Scott Jr., also announced on Monday a sweeping plan to conserve energy. He also said that Wal-Mart supported raising the minimum wage to help Wal-Mart's customers.

The theme throughout the memo was how to slow the increase in benefit costs without giving more ammunition to critics who contend that Wal-Mart's wages and benefits are dragging down those of other American workers.

Ms. Chambers proposed that employees pay more for their spouses' health insurance. She called for cutting 401(k) contributions to 3 percent of wages from 4 percent and cutting company-paid life insurance policies to $12,000 from the current level, equal to an employee's annual earnings.

Life insurance, she said, was "a high-satisfaction, low-importance benefit, which suggests an opportunity to trim the offering without substantial impact on associate satisfaction." Wal-Mart refers to its employees as associates.


Acknowledging that Wal-Mart has image problems, Ms. Chambers wrote: "Wal-Mart's critics can easily exploit some aspects of our benefits offering to make their case; in other words, our critics are correct in some of their observations. Specifically, our coverage is expensive for low-income families, and Wal-Mart has a significant percentage of associates and their children on public assistance."

Her memo stated that 5 percent of Wal-Mart's workers were on Medicaid, compared with 4 percent for other national employers. She said that Wal-Mart spent $1.5 billion a year on health insurance, which amounts to $2,660 per insured worker.

The memo, prepared with the help of McKinsey & Company, said the board was to consider the recommendations in November. But the memo said that three top Wal-Mart officials - its chief financial officer, its top human relations executive and its executive vice president for legal and corporate affairs - had "received the recommendations enthusiastically."

Ms. Chambers's memo voiced concern that workers were staying with the company longer, pushing up wage costs, although she stopped short of calling for efforts to push out more senior workers.

She wrote that "the cost of an associate with seven years of tenure is almost 55 percent more than the cost of an associate with one year of tenure, yet there is no difference in his or her productivity. Moreover, because we pay an associate more in salary and benefits as his or her tenure increases, we are pricing that associate out of the labor market, increasing the likelihood that he or she will stay with Wal-Mart."

The memo noted that Wal-Mart workers "are getting sicker than the national population, particularly in obesity-related diseases," including diabetes and coronary artery disease. The memo said Wal-Mart workers tended to overuse emergency rooms and underuse prescriptions and doctor visits, perhaps from previous experience with Medicaid.

The memo noted, "The least healthy, least productive associates are more satisfied with their benefits than other segments and are interested in longer careers with Wal-Mart."

The memo proposed incorporating physical activity in all jobs and promoting health savings accounts. Such accounts are financed with pretax dollars and allow workers to divert their contributions into retirement savings if they are not all spent on health care. Health experts say these accounts will be more attractive to younger, healthier workers.

"It will be far easier to attract and retain a healthier work force than it will be to change behavior in an existing one," the memo said. "These moves would also dissuade unhealthy people from coming to work at Wal-Mart."

Ron Pollack, executive director of Families U.S.A., a health care consumer-advocacy group, criticized the memo for recommending that more workers move into health plans with high deductibles.

"Their people are paying a very substantial portion of their earnings out of pocket for health care," he said. "These plans will cause these workers and their families to defer or refrain from getting needed care."

The memo noted that 38 percent of Wal-Mart workers spent more than one-sixth of their Wal-Mart income on health care last year.

By reducing the amount of time part-timers must work to qualify for health insurance, Wal-Mart is hoping to allay some of its critics.

One proposal under consideration would offer new employees "limited funding" so they could "gain access to the private insurance market" after 30 days of employment while waiting to join Wal-Mart's plan.

Such assistance, the memo stated, "would give us a powerful set of messages to use in combating critics. (For instance, 'Wal-Mart offers associates access to health insurance after they've worked with us for just 30 days.')"
 
I did not read the whole thing ... but those fuckers have balls considering the gazzilions of dollars they make and that the Waltons are on the Top 10 richest people in the US. they can literally buy hospitals in every city they have a business set up.

I am so glad that there are none in NYC. They tried to get in some months ago close to where I live and after months of negotiations with numerous community boards and bussines development organizations ... they were fucking denied! :kickass:
 
"Their people are paying a very substantial portion of their earnings out of pocket for health care," he said. "These plans will cause these workers and their families to defer or refrain from getting needed care."

The memo noted that 38 percent of Wal-Mart workers spent more than one-sixth of their Wal-Mart income on health care last year.
fuckin bastards. health care is ridiculously expensive from companies like this. i pay $12 a week for health care with like $10 deductibles for drugs, appointments, whatever. when i worked at k-fuck the full timers simply couldn't afford health care because they were making $8 an hour and it probably cost $50 a week or more for health care. i could afford that but even at my salary (duhhh like, a whole lot more than $8 an hour) it would definitely change my lifestyle. as in my savings would be at zero since i put $200 away every month.

jerks.

@lurch, that totally rocks. some areas in los angeles have fought desperately to keep wal-mart out, but they eventually lose due to the lawyers getting involved. wal-mart is seriously fucking evil man, it's so disgusting.
 
@lurch, that totally rocks. some areas in los angeles have fought desperately to keep wal-mart out, but they eventually lose due to the lawyers getting involved. wal-mart is seriously fucking evil man, it's so disgusting.

yeah, and the lot they wanted to use ... is really ideal for a place like Walmart ... was an old huge garage ... close to tother malls and such. so this was like a real ass fuck for them ...

people in NY really have it out for Walmart ... besides we have Target which totally rules :kickass:
 
i like target, mostly because i shop there, but from what i can tell they actually treat their employees decently.

i really don't know how the company is set up though, but i don't see them lowballing everything around and ruining mom and pop shops. there are a lot more targets in my area than there are wal-marts, and when you go to a target you can shop at like 12 other small stores in the same parking lot. with wal-mart that isn't the case.
 
I honestly can see the point in all this wal-mart hate. But I'm jumping on the super saver band wagon. I went to the one in Monrovia a week ago. Bought 4 boxes of Smart Start Cereal @ $3.40 a pop. Holy hell! Also if these people wouldn't have 5 fucking kids with their minimum wage jobs, a simple $40 a month wouldn't be an issue.
 
hardly true. I worked 60 hours a week (yes, 20 hours overtime) at $8.00 an hour. I was adding this on top of 2 other peoples income and we still could barely make ends meet. One makes $15 an hour and works 48 hours a week (no overtime, weird 12 hour shift thing) (fish plant, lead hand). The other makes $18 an hour but only works part-time.
 
i mean, how much cheaper can Walmart be than a Target or Kmart for example??? I doubt it's that much more ... if at all.

and the time wasted fucking cruising these huge isles with a shopping cart seems masochistic.

this is a perfect store for middle America ... keep it the fuck out of metro areas.
 
1lb of Naked Nutrition said:
I honestly can see the point in all this wal-mart hate. But I'm jumping on the super saver band wagon. I went to the one in Monrovia a week ago. Bought 4 boxes of Smart Start Cereal @ $3.40 a pop. Holy hell! Also if these people wouldn't have 5 fucking kids with their minimum wage jobs, a simple $40 a month wouldn't be an issue.
yeah, except it's probably $40 per WEEK. that adds up really fast, especially on minimum wage.
lurch70 said:
i mean, how much cheaper can Walmart be than a Target or Kmart for example??? I doubt it's that much more ... if at all.

and the time wasted fucking cruising these huge isles with a shopping cart seems masochistic.

this is a perfect store for middle America ... keep it the fuck out of metro areas.
wal-fart has weird pricing like $3.67 instead of $3.99. i think they completely eliminate rounding and just go for a solid percentage for everything. i know their basic practice is to for as little markup as possible, but make it so widespread that the numbers add up to astronomical amount. yeah they may only make 2 or 3% profit on everything they sell, but at the tune of 24985792568 million units per second, jesus.

oh and i guess you've never been a wal-mart. dude, shopping in one is a fucking NIGHTMARE. the aisles are so narrow that you get zero breathing room if more than one cart is in there. it's like something out of national lampoons, but with more beaners. :loco:
 
oh and i guess you've never been a wal-mart. dude, shopping in one is a fucking NIGHTMARE. the aisles are so narrow that you get zero breathing room if more than one cart is in there. it's like something out of national lampoons, but with more beaners.

:lol: ... beaners.

never been to one, and this is a good goal to have ... will never go into one.
 
I can't decide if I should hate Wal-Mart or not. I know they're evil to their employees but I live close to their HQ and a lot of benefits roll this way. They got us a new airport and just recently donated $300 million to my university for example. Then again, it's not like any of it went to my poor History department. :(
 
don't care. my wife pays $40 out of her paycheck for both of our health insurance. that's a great deal from Washington Mutual.

I like Wal-Mart. It's literally across the freeway from our neighborhood. It's convenient and it's cheap and they sell everything. I have a Kroger Advantage Card and Wal-Mart is still cheaper. It's a no-brainer.

Wal-Mart's prices are like that because they can claim to be cheaper than the other guy. Lowe's does the same thing. If Home Depot sells something at $3.99, Lowes will sell it for $3.97 so they can claim to be cheaper. Plus, Lowe's guarantees "We'll match competitors plus knock 10% off the price." So knocking that 2 cents off the price gives Lowe's a buffer.
 
after pooping on the floor, she shit her drawers, shit them right into the toilet. there was no way i was recovering them so i just plunged and plunged until they went down into the depths.

wtf.
 
walmart is the culmination of the monoculture and will slowly drain us of our souls.


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but shit, they are cheap.
 
just saw on tv that Walmart has actually opened a "war room" to combat all the negative press they have been getting lately.

some documentary is opening this week in NYC about walmart also ...