We's all in trouble again.

[TheDreamingMind]

I'm so sick to hear that the most powerful, advanced country in the world is
acting like its from the 16th century sometimes.....

Powerful yes... advanced? not a chance! 16th century america was better in ways. Was "land of the free" traditionally meant to be an ironic term?

 

[Anvil]

I don't pity them. They have it easy. They can do whatever they want and say "God told me to do it".

If anyone deserves pity, it's us non-believers. We only have our own conscience to guide us. We also get the bullshit beliefs of others shoved down our throats

Why the religious nut-jobs can't just live their own lives the way they want without saying everybody else should do the same is beyond me.

Well said.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Powerful yes... advanced? not a chance! 16th century america was better in ways. Was "land of the free" traditionally meant to be an ironic term?

i believe she meant technologically/scientifically advanced

 

[Hawng]

I hate to say it, but we are ruled by a government being guided by religion.

Been like that for thousands of years now in all cultures and society in general.
Heres an examples,

Roman religion was not simply a world of mythologies and gods to appease, for at the very heart of their ethos was the notion that the gods were arbitrators of justice, and therefore merely a functionary element, just as the Roman Praetors were earthly symbols of Rome's human laws.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html

While the Taliban present themselves as a reform movement, they have been criticized by Islamic scholars as being poorly educated in Islamic law and history—even in Islamic radicalism, which has a long history of scholarly writing and debate. Their implementation of Islamic law seems to be a combination of Wahhabi orthodoxy (i.e., banning of musical instruments) and tribal custom (i.e., the all-covering birka made mandatory for all Afghan women).

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/rel_liberty/history/overview.aspx

The relationship of politics and religion has been a central issue in American life since the Colonial era. For most of the European settlers who came to North America in the 17th century from England, France and Spain — all nations with established churches — a society without an established faith was unimaginable.

....This is nothing new

 

[replicated]

You can always move out. :hotjump:

 

[Anvil]

Sorry, I made that look wrong. I meant get used to it as in, we're always in trouble. That's what happens in a country like ours, freedom scares people. I agree that we should do something about it, and soon. But there will always be something or someone that is threatening freedom, that just a side effect of living in a country that has a mixed population.

The USA doesn't have freedom. Its just a word used to give you a reason to fight a war and feel threatened.

 

[Profanity]

So basically WW3 will end up being a holy war. :Smug:

with Holy Smoke.

 

[halfdeadhippo]

The day that these people ever see any form of meaningful political power, then it will be the day that I change my citizenship and location. I have nothing against Christianity as a religion, but I do have a problem with not holding respect for people of different beliefs and that's what these people stand for.

 

[replicated]

If you want to talk about intolerance, look at Islam. It has to be the most intolerant of all religions, except Satanism. Hail Satan! :hotjump:

 

[Necromunchkin]

In the end it's about power. Religion in its primitive forms was spawned in an attempt to create a sense of order, and evolved into a tool for humans to try and impose order. Those who have power want to keep it, those who don't wish to take it. Religion in any format provides justification for actions that one could not otherwise rationally justify. Behind every face of every god is a group of people striving for control.

 

[halfdeadhippo]

If you want to talk about intolerance, look at Islam. It has to be the most intolerant of all religions, except Satanism. Hail Satan! :hotjump:

Hardly. As a religion, Islam is no more intolerant than Christianity. The only trouble is that, unlike Christianity, there isn't a majority of Muslims over here, so we only see / hear about the extremist ones via the media.

 

[replicated]

In the end it's about power. Religion in its primitive forms was spawned in an attempt to create a sense of order, and evolved into a tool for humans to try and impose order. Those who have power want to keep it, those who don't wish to take it. Religion in any format provides justification for actions that one could not otherwise rationally justify. Behind every face of every god is a group of people striving for control.

You sir, are a genius. :hotjump:

 

[Anvil]

In the end it's about power. Religion in its primitive forms was spawned in an attempt to create a sense of order, and evolved into a tool for humans to try and impose order. Those who have power want to keep it, those who don't wish to take it. Religion in any format provides justification for actions that one could not otherwise rationally justify. Behind every face of every god is a group of people striving for control.

Well said. I couldn't have said it any better myself... Unless Acie was there to help me.

 

[Profanity]

I disagree. Religion has always acted as a moral guidance. People have used religion as a foundation to building their community and as a way of trying to understand the answer to that universal question of "why?". Obviously the slight contrast in different religions beliefs will be a cause for conflict and some people will obviously use religion as a way of gaining power but I don't believe that religion is about that.