What comes into your mind?

Dec 7, 2004
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A few days ago i was at the beach and the weather was beautiful, sunny and clear and i felt great. I become bored shortly after so i got my discman and started listening to DT. As Derivation TNB drew on a intense feeling of melancholy came over me, images of darkness and deserted streets, total absence of people and any form of life...

I am sure that everyone experiences each song differently and i would like to know how you experience the Dark Tranquillity songs and which mental images if any come in your mind?

Maybe this has been discussed before?
 
Cuthalion said:
As Derivation TNB drew on a intense feeling of melancholy came over me, images of darkness and deserted streets, total absence of people and any form of life...

It's a very soothing song and I feel calmness and peace as I listen to it. So I guess in some way it's similar to your vision of it. But I also get a feeling of hurry like "do it before it's too late". Maybe it's something important I have been doing while listening to it. :err:
 
I associate specific feelings and scenarios with early DT stuff, probably because back then my emotional imagery was, weirdly enough, more open and more closed at the same time. Anyway, each and every time I listen to 'Skywards', especially when Friden goes 'Now it's time for retributive thoughts', I feel that I'm going to make it, have a fulfilling life, no matter the odds against me. Still, the feeling is not one of pure, optimistic hope: it's more bitter than that, sort of 'Look how very wrong life is, look how very heavy on our shoulders the world is, nevertheless I'm going to take it standing up'. Or something.

'A bolt of blazing gold' makes me think of Stillorgan Wood, a small park in Dublin where several significant things happened, back when I could drink and drink and never be sick. I also used to talk a lot with some friends, one of which is still in my life while the other isn't - he's not dead, as Big Ilaria and her kin will have it, we're just not in touch anymore. I made him listen to DT in Stillorgan Wood for the best part of the summer of 1994. And I listened to the song over and over while sitting under a very special group of trees. The place looked straight out of LOTR. It probably still does, but I haven't been there in 9 years. *cries*

'Shadow Duet' has made me feel all sort of things in all sorts of period. Currently, I associate it with Harry Potter. Don't ask. :p

'Alone' is something that used to come to my mind several times in times of bereavement. The lyrics to the first verse just seemed to fit perfectly whenever I faced a sentimental rejection. I also think, although I'm not sure because I was sort of blurred mentally, that 'the shattered kingdom in ruins before me' came to me when my friend Carlo died, on September 11th 2004.

On to later stuff - the older I get, the worst I get at remembering song titles, lyrics, specific riffs. i have always had the impression that rahvin can't stand this type of approximation, but he doesn't tell me too often because he's kind. :) anyway, I also get progressively worse at remembering titles and authors of papers, which is bad for my career. but let's not get distracted.

the intro to 'tidal tantrum' gives me a strong impression of surging energy, and physical strenght. it's one of these songs that i need to have handy when i'm working out - in the same fashion of samael's 'on earth', the first notes make me push through whatever exhausting thing i might be doing at the moment, and it's amazing how a song can produce an endorphine rush that actually has physical effects. this feeling is the closest i get to triumph (no, not of steel ;) ). still, in much the same way as what i said about 'skywards', it's not serene and unmarred; it's about having to fight and having a chance, having to give it my all for something that might end up in blood. something very, very similar happens with the incredible riff to 'the sun fired blanks' and, to a lesser degree, with 'feast of burden'.

'final resistence' holds a very, very specific meaning for me. on september 4, 2002 i was about to sit my oral exam in order to get my current job, after having unexpectedly passed the written on the day before. i woke up very early in the morning, because the exam was at 8 and anyway i was too shaky and emotional to sleep long - had coffee, then went for a smoke upstairs in the very shabby hotel i was staying at, and blasted 'final resistence' on my portable CD player. while i didn't particulary want to see the bearings of disaster, it was kind of important to remind myself that this was a last effort, that i needed to hold on tight for little more than three hours and maybe then all the mad working and suffering would be over. which happened. :)

'the same' and 'the enemy', two of my favorite DT songs, are strictly connected with passion in my perception. i'm not specifically referring to sexual passion, although that's a part of it - these songs, because of their intensity, recall to me all that is strongly wanting something, but also believe in something, putting oneself in something. while other songs i've mentioned make me think of the result, those two are focused on expression of the self through identification with what is wanted and/or loved, a kind of dispersion of identity in a passionate flow. 'lethe' partially does the trick, but i find the two songs above more on the point - 'the same' because it's excessive in a sense, baroque, dark and enveloping like a four-poster bed with dark crimson curtains, not too focused on the detail but rather on the magnitude of unpolished feelings, much like a teenager discovering the association between love and death. 'the enemy' is way more refined, way more rarefied, the very same concept from the heart of someone who can tell the differences between opulence and beauty... but still very passionate.

oh my. i'm rambling. and i've written far too much. there would be more, but i. have. to. work.
 
hyena said:
the older I get, the worst I get at remembering song titles, lyrics, specific riffs. i have always had the impression that rahvin can't stand this type of approximation, but he doesn't tell me too often because he's kind. :) anyway, I also get progressively worse at remembering titles and authors of papers, which is bad for my career.

i don't make a big fuss about you forgetting titles of papers either. i'm even kinder than you imagined. ;)
 
People wonder why I'm so into music when I don't play any instruments and only sing decently well. Part of it is that my memory is so tied to music. Play any song I've heard more than 5 times, and I'll be taken back to a specific time range, place, and probably one video game I used to play while listening to it. (To this day, Samael's Passage reminds me of Return to Castle Wolfenstein, and Reroute to Remain reminds me of Snood).

Not much of DT does that for me, oddly enough. Probably because I listen to it so often, and tend to do so only while in motion, going from place to place and thus breaking my memory's ability to tie it to a place and time. (Although Ulver's Porn Piece still reminds me of walking through Washington Square Park all alone in the snow.)

In a sense though, certain songs evoke certain responses in my physiology, either calming me or psyching me up for something. An example, and it's worked for my brother as well, is Hedon. I've listened to that single song so many, many times, and often enough I associate it with running (I used to do my workouts while listening to music). I'd sing the song in my head during a meet, and I'd keep repeating the beginning until I hit the critical point in the race and I'd growl (to myself and anyone else around) the "Open free the pain!" line. Now, besides scaring the crap out of people around me, it'd release this burst of energy in me that'd carry me through the end. I did the same thing to my brother - I shouted it on the beginning of his last lap of the mile he was running for a meet the day after he had his wisdom teeth removed. I've never seen him sprint harder in his life, and to this day he says it's the craziest thing he's ever done (while running).

To cut a long ramble short (as my bosses are looking at me funny), there are songs like Auctioned that do the opposite to me, calming me if I'm too energized or anxious. Mostly though, I turn to other bands for downers.

~kov.
 
Hmmmm, very interesting. Im similar to hyena in this respect, cause Skydancer is the album I have the strongest emotional bond with. "Crimson Winds" always fill me with energy, doses of endorphines flow through my body especially during the solos. "Skywards" does the same, here also with the addition of some of the best lyrics ever written. "Shadow Duet" is also a big energizer, when I here that little ditty in "My Faeryland Forgotten" I dont know if I should cry or smile. "Alone" is making me feel alone :) , I realize that its only me and this song in the whole world at that very moment.

Then theres plenty of songs that evoke something in my mind or heart. I love "Flaming Shades of Fall" - again awesome lyrics, the best ode to autumn there is, "Of Chaos..." is like a tornado, I love the feeling of being carried by it in its eye. "Edenspring" - the same. "Lethe" - a mixture of sadness and some weird melancholy joy, if theres such a thing. "The Emptiness from which I Fed" - probably the top fav of mine, its just perfect. I love the ending of "Scythe, Rage and Roses", that blasting finale, superb! Then "Nether Novas", again a top fav, very soothing and almost liquid, like flowing through me and then in the end fantastic gradation, which makes me feel like levitating when I close my eyes. Then I adore "Fabric", its just too much like me, "Emptier Still" brings back certain memories which are bad, but they turned out well, so the overall feeling is positive.

edit: and thanks, I think Ill give a listen to all of these, just to remind myself of what Ive just written. :)
 
Cuthalion said:
As Derivation TNB drew on a intense feeling of melancholy came over me, images of darkness and deserted streets, total absence of people and any form of life...
Sometimes I feel (more like felt, since I haven't listened to the song in a while) that melancholy too, but a few times I also felt this not-too-seldom feeling of detachment when Stanne sings "victims, not witnesses" and "an accomplice, not a bystander", because far too often it's exactly the opposite for me.

I don't have anything terribly interesting sort of feelings to describe when it comes to the ones that come from DT's music. Lots of feelings do, but they're quite vague...this and that riff makes me angry, those lyrics make me sad and so on. I don't see the point in describing all that.

Randomly enough, I remember that To A Bitter Halt (or maybe that's Nether Novas, I haven't listened to Projector in a while, you should know which one I'm talking about anyway) brought to my mind an image of an old schoolmate's house (or a similar one, anyway) and steps appearing on the gravel around the house and some other things in the house no doubt due to the lyrics. Make of that what you will.

However, this song makes me think how the social commentary of the verses works a lot better than the emo-weeping of the chorus. Even though the former is kind of only the multiplied version of the latter, seen from the outside. I suppose it's a little more wordly, and anyhow not so...trite.
 
i think that you are talking about To A Bitter Halt and now when i think about it too it all comes back to me.
the first time i heard To A Bitter Halt i was in a bad emotional situation, i was depressed and angry all the time.
And somehow the last part of the last verse

"what has been and what will be
never care 'cause I was in between
as I said with on foot in loneliness
you hide here in me"

gave me some kind of wierd sense of strength and i saw some strange reason behind it all. Suddenly i realised that everything is not supposed to work and that it is normal to be f**ked up and that somehow i even liked it...

It is one of my favourite songs still
 
There are many such connections in my mind, but here's a very recent one that's actually kind of an opposite of what the topic meant:

Yesterday evening, when I was driving back home from my good friend's place with a multitude of things going on through my mind, I noticed how the setting sun had coloured the clouds - and I just suddenly felt like screaming: "Crimson winds! Ornaments in the dark!"

I turned off whatever I was listening to with my crappy cassette-player in my car and for a moment just sat there in perfect peace, humming the solo-part of the said song. Luckily there was not much traffic anymore at that hour, so I could just adore the red and purple clouds while I slowly drove my car to my new home. It felt great.

-Villain
 
As someone fairly new to this DT love affair the only thing that comes
to mind is before a show I asked Martin H if they would play My Negation
he said the would and they did. I saw DT 3 times on their recent USofA tour.
Hearing that song that night was most special for me and it
will be burned in my memory forever -