I am just curious to find out what makes music heavy. Apparently bands like Slipknot, Static-x, and Sevendust aren't "metal". These bands make music that is as hard as any but are being labeled as "power pop" by various people on this forum.
What Makes Music Heavy??
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MetalManCPA
Papa Opeth
This question begs for arguements of opinion.
OK - I'll start:
Not all inclusive, but I don't necessarily equate "heavy" with metal -
I consider a heavy sound one that has sonic resonance with the drums and/or the bass. I've heard many metal songs that are fast, but not necessarily heavy. I haven't heard many voices I consider heavy. I know I'm sounding vague - but it's difficult for me to explain my definition. Heavy is weight - it has to push. So I look for that sound that drives through my chest. Metallica's Black album is heavy to me (just for examples sake), more so than their earlier stuff.
OK - I'll start:
Not all inclusive, but I don't necessarily equate "heavy" with metal -
I consider a heavy sound one that has sonic resonance with the drums and/or the bass. I've heard many metal songs that are fast, but not necessarily heavy. I haven't heard many voices I consider heavy. I know I'm sounding vague - but it's difficult for me to explain my definition. Heavy is weight - it has to push. So I look for that sound that drives through my chest. Metallica's Black album is heavy to me (just for examples sake), more so than their earlier stuff.
You are so right dude. Here is a list of songs that i consider "heavy" to check out:
sevendust - waffle, rumblefish
metallica - sad but true
machinehead - ten ton hammer
coal chamber - tyler's song
in flames - only for the weak
pantera - this love (the latter half)
Rob Zombie - meet the creeper
alice in chains - man in the box
megadeth - symphony of destruction
godsmack - awake
this stuff may not be as hardcore as you guys like but these songs really get my blood pumpin!!
sevendust - waffle, rumblefish
metallica - sad but true
machinehead - ten ton hammer
coal chamber - tyler's song
in flames - only for the weak
pantera - this love (the latter half)
Rob Zombie - meet the creeper
alice in chains - man in the box
megadeth - symphony of destruction
godsmack - awake
this stuff may not be as hardcore as you guys like but these songs really get my blood pumpin!!
lumen
CKMS supporter
I voted other - so I'll specify.
Although I believe drums, guitar and bass sound play a huge role in "heavy," for me heavy contains a huge emotional component. Heavy is dramatic and passionate. So drums, bass, electric guitars, and speed do not necessarily define heavy. Check out Analog Kid's "So Long" cover, and listen to how "heavy" it gets near the end and you'll have some idea of what I'm talking about.
Although I believe drums, guitar and bass sound play a huge role in "heavy," for me heavy contains a huge emotional component. Heavy is dramatic and passionate. So drums, bass, electric guitars, and speed do not necessarily define heavy. Check out Analog Kid's "So Long" cover, and listen to how "heavy" it gets near the end and you'll have some idea of what I'm talking about.
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
- tone of guitars and bass
- the overall dramatic intensity of the piece...for example Nevermore's Dreaming Neon Black, that is definitely heavy in terms of emotional impact.
- the overall dramatic intensity of the piece...for example Nevermore's Dreaming Neon Black, that is definitely heavy in terms of emotional impact.
Manbient
Queer Old Man
I voted OTHER... to me it is the groove of the music... I consider Nu Metal (the heavier stuff like Sevendust, Puya, Machine Head, Soilwork, even though they ain't Nu Metal they have some groove to their tunes, especially Like The Average Stalker or Neurotica Rampage) to be the heaviest stuff. That stuff just has this definite GROOVE that makes you wanna bang your head and destroy things. I don't get that when i listen to most of the brutal death metal. Vocals to me don't play much of a role at all in the heaviness of the music. I guess i should have voted tone of guitars though because they are what causes that groove. How fast the music is to me doesn't have a whole lot to do with making the music heavy either. I mean usually when it gets slower i consider it more heavy because i just sorta... drage the heaviness out... hard to explain. But i do tink Ten Ton Hammer by Machine Head is one of the heaviest songs i have heard and it isn't fast at all.
Devilish monster from the hill
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Manbient
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Originally posted by Devilish monster from the hill
this is heavy???
Obviously you have a different idea of what heavy is. I agree with most of those. AND YES i know who all those brutal death bands are... But i don't conisder that heavy.
RETIREDTrapped
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Lol. He said hardcore.... how cute.
You want HEAVY??
Pick up Meshuggah's Destroy Erase Improve album... Soul Burn and Suffer in truth have to be the heaviest works ever...
You are mistaking 'HEAVY' for 'GROOVE'.
Manbient
Queer Old Man
Originally posted by Trapped
Lol. He said hardcore.... how cute.
You want HEAVY??
Pick up Meshuggah's Destroy Erase Improve album... Soul Burn and Suffer in truth have to be the heaviest works ever...
You are mistaking 'HEAVY' for 'GROOVE'.
Heavy and Groove in my mind have a strong correlation in my mind... but yeah actually i have changedmy mind... Meshuggah i think is the heaviest band around... But i still think a lot of the heavier Nu Metal is damn heavy in my books.
Ecstatic Youth
...playing with fire
IMO, heaviest band is Cryptopsy. It's rediculous how heavy they are. And it's not like they're just noise either, these guys are fucking virtuoso's on their instruments. And to me they definitely have a groove. They are super super heavy, but they are also super super good. I love em. Real talent, don't care what anyone says.
Kushantaiidan
SPASIBA AX.
Cryptopsy. I'll have to check them out.
But defining heavy. Ouch, that's a hard one. Heavy I suppose is that sort of power, aggression and emotion in music.
Heavy Metal is now such a ridiculously diverse genre, compared to say punk, which is just punk.
I spose that Heavy metal is defined by distorted guitars, dark sounding tunes, not upbeat, like punk music, and diverse.
Of course, metal can be upbeat, can be bright, and isn't always distorted.
Metal would have been easily catagorized and defined 10 years ago, but now it is such a diverse genre that it is nearly undefinable.
hmm.. maybe someone here can define it.
But defining heavy. Ouch, that's a hard one. Heavy I suppose is that sort of power, aggression and emotion in music.
Heavy Metal is now such a ridiculously diverse genre, compared to say punk, which is just punk.
I spose that Heavy metal is defined by distorted guitars, dark sounding tunes, not upbeat, like punk music, and diverse.
Of course, metal can be upbeat, can be bright, and isn't always distorted.
Metal would have been easily catagorized and defined 10 years ago, but now it is such a diverse genre that it is nearly undefinable.
hmm.. maybe someone here can define it.
BillowOfZeal
and I looked up her skirt
Heavy is a band on Relapse called Mastodon that my band played with the other day....damn they were heavy. Check them out.
To me there are two different types of heavy. The obvious "heavy" guitar tones (wall of deep sound..etc). Then there is the emotional heavy, Example of emotional heaviness...Anathema - Eternity is one of the heaviest albums of all time IMO.
To me there are two different types of heavy. The obvious "heavy" guitar tones (wall of deep sound..etc). Then there is the emotional heavy, Example of emotional heaviness...Anathema - Eternity is one of the heaviest albums of all time IMO.
I just bought Mastodon's CD ($5 with free shipping for 5 songs). Pretty good stuff. Several of their members used to be in Lethargy.
BillowOfZeal
and I looked up her skirt
two of them were in Today is the Day as well. They stayed at my friends house after they show and were cool as shit.
Slayed Necros
Void
BillowOfZeal
and I looked up her skirt
EYEHATEGOD is damn heavy, especially live.
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