When to quad-track in a song ?

I honestly prefer double tracking over quad any day. Just feels tighter to me. But, there will always be parts (huge choruses, etc) where you would benefit from quad.

I can never seem to get automation to sound smooth enough when automating to make space for leads/overdubs. :(
 
I find that when a song is properly mixed dual tracking is usually enough. Mostly because it makes guitars sound wider and not necessarily to make them fatter. Plus it's easier, less time consuming and it's harder to screw things up.
 
I still dont understand the point of quad tracking, sure you can hear a wall of guitars but as long as you pan them left right it sounds wide enough for me, also its faster to record only two as long as these are recorded nicely.
 
*shrug*

i can pretty well tell the difference myself, so i can understand why people would care to quad track things

personally, i rarely quad track anything...maybe for a bridge or instrumental interlude that doesn't have any vocals or leads over it, and can pretty well handle another pair of guitars filling in some space. other than that, i stick to 2 tracks, and often send each through 2 different amps rather than having 2 performances on each side
 
Unless I'm recording guitarists who actually know how to play guitar, I will probably never quad-track.

I kidd, but really though if the guitarists are SUPER tight I'll do it. If not I see no point.
 
*shrug*

i can pretty well tell the difference myself, so i can understand why people would care to quad track things

personally, i rarely quad track anything...maybe for a bridge or instrumental interlude that doesn't have any vocals or leads over it, and can pretty well handle another pair of guitars filling in some space. other than that, i stick to 2 tracks, and often send each through 2 different amps rather than having 2 performances on each side

This sounds like a good compromise. Can you give a link to an example that you recorded/mixed using 1 take per side thru two amps? What 2 amps do you use and how many mics would you use? Thanks mate
 
you mean soloed or in a mix?

in a mix

a big part of it is usually because the 3rd/4th/whatever track isn't panned fully 100%, so you can hear the stereo image being filled in a bit more. it's also obvious if someone has quadtracked really fast/technical shit, and there's differences in the performances

This sounds like a good compromise. Can you give a link to an example that you recorded/mixed using 1 take per side thru two amps? What 2 amps do you use and how many mics would you use? Thanks mate

i don't have any links to share, mostly because i'm embarrassed to post any of the bullshit that i fuck with on this forum...but when i have employed this technique, i reamped thru both my 6505+ and krank rev jr. using a single mic(57) in the same position for each. obviously you could switch mics and positioning, but i never have the time to mess with all that, and it could end up fucking with the phase of the tracks. i try to use the peavey to get the bulk of the tone, then dial in the krank to give a bit of top-end grind that the 6505 just can't muster. that sweep knob on that thing is sweet as fuck when blending with another amp, because you can set the voicing of the EQ to coincide with what whatever other amp you're using.
 
i don't have any links to share, mostly because i'm embarrassed to post any of the bullshit that i fuck with on this forum...but when i have employed this technique, i reamped thru both my 6505+ and krank rev jr. using a single mic(57) in the same position for each. obviously you could switch mics and positioning, but i never have the time to mess with all that, and it could end up fucking with the phase of the tracks. i try to use the peavey to get the bulk of the tone, then dial in the krank to give a bit of top-end grind that the 6505 just can't muster. that sweep knob on that thing is sweet as fuck when blending with another amp, because you can set the voicing of the EQ to coincide with what whatever other amp you're using.

Thanks for the details. You then blend the two amp tracks into one track for each side and pan them 100/100 or do you do 6505 LR100/100 and Krank LR80/80

I thought that since you are a colonel and a senior member that you must have recorded and mixed a million records.:grin: Hope for me yet lol
 
6505 LR100/100 and Krank LR80/80

this..or something close to it

retains the tightness that you get from 2 well-played rythyms, but can sound a bit fuller and obviously gives more tonal options