Why can't PETA and all these militant groups just be normal for a change?

I just want to say overall how much of a great thread this turned out to be, and Cherion I hope you aren't put off at all by any of this, your opinions are great here! Hope this discussion can continue further! <333
 
I'll post more later this. Been busy with some projects, and these conversations wear me out a bit (though I enjoy listening and considering other people's point of view).
 
My wife went veg primarily because her Cholesterol dropped 200 points when she switched.

That isn't really surprising given what is sold as meat in the US. The crap they feed most animals in mass lots would kill them if they didn't make it to slaughter when they do. Tons of fat in it. Grass feed beef for example, has something like a tenth of the fat in it, but costs $$$. Worth it though.

I'm all for paying more for meat if I know the animals are treated better, fed better, etc. That said, I'd prefer to see PETA-morons die in a fire somewhere. I still remember some of their shock ads over the years, campaigns to have all the cockroaches in a building "live trapped" rather than exterminated, etc.

I'm sure there is someone in the PETA org that is laughing all the way to the bank.
 
I'm all for animals not being abused. Always. But, save the whales, don't eat meat, don't wear fur. But...allow the slaughter of millions of unborn babies every year by abortion. Hypocritical off the charts.
 
Okay this topic is SPECIFICALLY about animal welfare (read: non-human welfare) ethics. As much as I like Purveyor of Evil, I please ask everyone to ignore his post and not derail this thread. It's not that I don't value the importance of the topic he brought up, it's that we should stay on topic... Purveyor, please start a separate thread on the subject if you wish.
 
Okay this topic is SPECIFICALLY about animal welfare (read: non-human welfare) ethics. As much as I like Purveyor of Evil, I please ask everyone to ignore his post and not derail this thread. It's not that I don't value the importance of the topic he brought up, it's that we should stay on topic... Purveyor, please start a separate thread on the subject if you wish.
Sorry, dude, I wasn't trying to derail it. I'm serious. I was just a bit miffed at what I see as hypocrisy. That's all, man. And thank you for your kind words.
 
For sure. That being said though (devil's advocate here), aren't they against pets so technically it suits with their philosophy since domesticated animals can't survive in the wild?

We're does slaughter fit into the philosophy of Ethical Treatment?
By that standard they should have no problem with the slaughter of livestock, since those animals can't survive in the wild either.

PETA, like so many other organizations, exists to make it's founders and upper echelon officers rich.
They appeal to the emotions of sheeple who donate their time, money, and freedom to funnel cash into the big wigs' bank accounts.

Having people run around naked in public raises "awareness," which increases membership and cash flow. You won't find any of the top management of PETA being arrested for public nudity, though.
 
Yeah I guess at the end of the day, those actions cannot be justified at all... and I totally agree with your economic assessment of that organization.
 
PETA sues Seaworld

just that phrase by itself is making me laugh my ass off
PETA is fucking crazy

I don't have a problem with them suing Seaworld. Seaworld isn't exactly a reputable organization either... I take issue with the REASON for why they are suing them, which is borderline racist, exploitative, and down right stupid/embarrassing.
 
I don't have a problem with them suing Seaworld. Seaworld isn't exactly a reputable organization either... I take issue with the REASON for why they are suing them, which is borderline racist, exploitative, and down right stupid/embarrassing.

the law against slavery being aplicable to animals
that's just funny as hell
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