Why do bands need record labels?

[CF87]

Wrong.

Labels front bands money to record that the band has to pay back out of CD sales. Bands (especially in this genre) make little to no money on CD sales because all the money goes back to the label for the labels expenses (recording costs, mixing/mastering costs, artwork/layout costs, CD pressing, advertising, etc).

The labels (most of them) do NOT front money for bands to tour. A booking agent, which the band has to pay, books a tour and sets a rate of pay for the band (ex. $1000 a show) that the CLUB pays to them to book them. The band, out of that per show fee, has to buy gas, food, pay a tech or 3, pay the soundman, pay for whatever vehicle maintenence they need while on the road, and divide up the rest for themselves afterwards, then pay taxes.

Playing live Metal is not a money-making venture. Even "bigger" bands like Iced Earth and Nevermore have "day jobs" that they make thier living at outside of the band. They make enough to add to thier income, but they do not make enough money to live until you start getting up into the Ozzfest level. Most bands do it for the love of the music.

Say you're right. It's still not fair to say in the spectrum of metal iced earth,nevermore are big bands that would represent money involved for 'metal' music. I do not believe everyone is getting screwed. There are bands that have to make good money.

I need to find out about soundscans,etc...

 

[skeptik]

There are maybe a dozen or so Metal bands from the 90s that actually make a living off of their music, Cannibal Corpse being one of them.

 

[Pelata]

Say you're right. It's still not fair to say in the spectrum of metal iced earth,nevermore are big bands that would represent money involved for 'metal' music. I do not believe everyone is getting screwed. There are bands that have to make good money.

I need to find out about soundscans,etc...

Well no, I don't think that "everyone" is getting screwed. I didn't even imply that IE or NM were getting screwed. I'm just saying that they still have sources of income outside of music to pay the bills (Warrell & Schaffer specifically). There ARE a lot bands who make money @ Metal...but not as many who make enough money to live solely off of thier Metal income...they have to have something else.

I was just dispelling the rumor that labels "pay" all this money to the bands. What they do is "front" the money to the bands that the bands must pay back in someway. Until the label is paid back, the bands make nothing off of CD sales. They get paid, by the clubs and in merch sales (if thier merch is independent of thier label), on tour.

 

[KevenZ]

"In this day and age why don't more bands distribute their stuff over the internet?"

because metal is about money these days.

 

[skeptik]

"In this day and age why don't more bands distribute their stuff over the internet?"

because metal is about money these days.

 

[CF87]

Who does not want some money anyways. who gives a shit

 

[Carcassian]

"In this day and age why don't more bands distribute their stuff over the internet?"

because metal is about money these days.

Metalcore may be, metal, in general, isn't; at least not to the bands.

 

[DE]

*capitalist

*country (US or some of Western Europe etc. I guess)

also

From wikipedia:

Since its founding in 1949, the PRC has been led by the Communist Party of China (CPC) under a one-party system.

Capitalistic is a perfectly valid word, the PRC has largely embraced capitalism in recent years (or collective capitalism at least, use your apparent Googling talents to look up "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics") and you're a faggot

 

[Erik]

de noone gives a fucking shit about economics and you're a faggot

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Haha I bet he's majoring in world affairs or something FLAMING.

 

[anonymouswierdo]

Haha I bet he's majoring in world affairs or something FLAMING.

Which person?