Why is the metalness of Black Sabbath questioned but not 80s Priest or Dio?

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Born Again is the best album in any case

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Yep, good album that gets overlooked far too often.

Disturbing the Priest is a 5 star masterpiece. The rest of the album? Not so much.

 

[jimmy101]

Pretty much, yeah. Still, Born Again cops a lot of flak for no good reason.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I love The Hairy Scream ... one of Gillans nicknames which seems to have been forgotten

 

[CiG]

No love for "Zero the Hero"?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Disturbing, Zero, and title track are all blatantly excellent songs. I'd put both Disturbing and Zero in their top 5 songs. None of the other songs are less than good. I used to be iffy on Digital Bitch but for an ugly trashy diss song, it's great. Best production and vocal performance on a Sabbath album as well.

 

[CiG]

Personally the title track is my favourite on Born Again, Ian gave such a passionate and slow-burning performance. He was the star on that track.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Zero the Hero is the worst song on the album ...

*4.5 star masterpiece

 

[jimmy101]

That's harsh on Zero the Hero. That song even featured on a Black Sabbath best of once upon a time. This one...

I quite like it actually.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Zero's riff is one of those instant classic riffs.

 

[jimmy101]

Heavy as lead.

 

[CiG]

oof.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

That's harsh on Zero the Hero.

Yeah it's more like a 3 or 3.5 at best. Don't really remember why i have it in the 2's. I'll have to revisit that album in the next few days

 

[EchoForever]

Sabbath weren't and aren't metal, they are heavy rock. Ritchie Blackmores Rainbow with Dio wasn't and isn't metal. Dio on his own / solo was metal.

what a stupid fucking thing to say

 

[Atomic Tide]

Always loved Born Again. This was actually the first time I ever saw Sabbath live and remains one of the loudest shows I've ever seen. Not a bad track on this one, although Keep It Warm is kinda filler-ish, imo. They probably should've substituted it for The Fallen.

 

[The Ozzman]

That's one of their worst albums though

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

That's one of their worst albums though

It's better than every album with 'ya boy Tony Martin.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Always loved Born Again. This was actually the first time I ever saw Sabbath live and remains one of the loudest shows I've ever seen. Not a bad track on this one, although Keep It Warm is kinda filler-ish, imo. They probably should've substituted it for The Fallen.

I haven't heard The Fallen, should dl that remaster and see how it is. I've always loved Keep it Warm even though it's uncharacteristically happy, feels like almost like a work song, can picture Iommi laying down rail spikes while Gillian clad in overalls sings his tune, ends the album on a great note.

 

[The Ozzman]

It's better than every album with 'ya boy Tony Martin.

Maybe Forbidden but that's about it

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Cross Purposes is shit-tier