Why is the metalness of Black Sabbath questioned but not 80s Priest or Dio?

[HamburgerBoy]

Korn went under some other name and was doing stuff before then 1993. Gorguts probably prowled shitty local clubs in Central California and tried stealing their sound.

 

[The Ozzman]

There's just no way a simpleton like you can digest an album like Obscura.

Maybe or maybe I just prefer early Gorguts

 

[CiG]

he's unintentionally trolling you and you just keep feeding him, lol.

Like Ozz, HBB says so much off-the-wall shit that I find it hard to tell when they're trolling... lol.

 

[jimmy101]

It's hard to put your finger on the birth of nu-metal. But the "Bring tha Noize" collab between Anthrax & Public Enemy would have to be one of the earliest examples. Rage Against the Machine could also be considered a forbearer.

I guess Korn's debut album is the first complete example.

 

[Satanstoenail]

It's hard to put your finger on the birth of nu-metal. But the "Bring tha Noize" collab between Anthrax & Public Enemy would have to be one of the earliest examples. Rage Against the Machine could also be considered a forbearer.

I guess Korn's debut album is the first complete example.

There's nothing nu-metal about that Anthrax/Public Enemy collab whatsoever. It's like blaming Aerosmith and Run DMC on nu-metal.

 

[CiG]

So funny seeing a bunch of whiteboy metal musicians providing the backdrop to lyrical passages like "Farrakhan's a prophet and I think you ought to listen..."

 

[HamburgerBoy]

There's at least *something* nu metal about that collab, metal, rapping, groove punctuated with whatever that sliding noise thing is. Easily the most original song in their discography.

 

[Sirjack]

wut?

 

[jimmy101]

So funny seeing a bunch of whiteboy metal musicians providing the backdrop to lyrical passages like "Farrakhan's a prophet and I think you ought to listen..."

True. Chuck D also goes on to question the "blackness" of black radio stations haha.

 

[jimmy101]

Some of the Beastie Boys' early 90's stuff had to have been an influence too. Wouldn't categorize it as Nu metal though.

 

[Satanstoenail]

There's at least *something* nu metal about that collab, metal, rapping, groove punctuated with whatever that sliding noise thing is. Easily the most original song in their discography.

Essential nu-metal characteristic no. 23 - 'sliding noise thing'.

 

[jimmy101]

To be fair they were just replicating the sound of the original song.



Influential on the genre nonetheless.

 

[CiG]

It's rap rock which is a subgenre nu-metal owes some of their sound too, hardly controversial to bring it up in a discussion about nu-metal.

 

[Senor Limpio]

The only thing keeping Master of Reality from being a 5 star album for me is After Forever. The pro-Christian theme is too forced (it comes off to me as an attempt at proving to the public that they're not Satanists), and Ozzy vocals are lacking something (confidence in the theme, maybe)? The riffs are good, though. But the rest of the album I love, even the Interludes.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

The only thing keeping Master of Reality from being a 5 star album for me is After Forever. The pro-Christian theme is too forced (it comes off to me as an attempt at proving to the public that they're not Satanists), and Ozzy vocals are lacking something (confidence in the theme, maybe)?

 

[Senor Limpio]

I stand by what I said. It is probably the only thing I agree with Lester Bangs on

 

[Talos of Atmora]

I stand by what I said. It is probably the only thing I agree with Lester Bangs on

Fuck Lester Bangs.

 

[Senor Limpio]

Fuck Lester Bangs.

Agreed, but what he said about the forced Christian theme is correct.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Agreed, but what he said about the forced Christian theme is correct.

No, it's really not and the fact that anyone gives a shit is funny.

 

[CiG]

Imagine thinking an album would be perfect if only one song didn't have a Christian theme lyrically.

Pathetic, also fuck Lester Bangs seconded. Music journalists are subhuman cunts.