Worship music leaked

What is this world coming to remember the record store! I remember going to Tower Records the day a LP came out!


I miss those days too, lol, but I think they are long over forever. I remember when ...And Justice For All was all hyped at Sam Goodie with a beautiful Art Display at the Entrance counting down the days till it was officially released. I remember buying it when it first came out and rushed back home. Opening the plastic and just savoring that fresh new smell before putting the Cassette in the radio and just read the inner notes and stuff as the first song kicked in
 
Being seemimgly the one dissenting voice is disappointing as I've been a huge 'Thrax fan since 1990 and PoT; even loved the John-era albums up to most of Volume 8.

After finally hearing 'Worship Music' yesterday a few times (and again this morning) - initial thoughts are disappointment. As one person mentioned above, a lot of the songs sound the same.

The guitar tones are still the Pantera-esque "nu metal" sound. That would be okay if the riffs and melodies were stellar, but for the most part the riffs don't have that spark that elevates them from 'good' to 'great'. Anthrax always had a gift for seriously catchy riffs and great melodies, they lost a little of that with half of Volume 8 & most of WCFYA. What seemed good on first listen with the new album was already losing lustre on 2nd and 3rd listens, save for some obvious exceptions - 'I'm Alive', 'Earth On Hell' & 'Crawl' are highlights.

Save for the genuinely few very good tracks, a lot of the others suffer from riffs and melodies that just aren't memorable. I really wanted to love this album and believe the hype. Myabe time will allow it to grow and I'll appreciate it a lot more but I have a feeling it'll be like 'Death Magnetic' - the more times that passes the less I play it.

I must be listening to a very different album that the reviews online that proclaim this as Anthrax's best album; imo it is very far from being anywhere near their best.
 
I heard it today going to and from work and all I can say is that it has lived up to expectations. To me it's a fusion of absolutely everything they have done in the past and made into something new. It has something on it that any Anthrax fan will love. It's up there with the best with production, very clear but not over-produced. I think you can tell the difference between to the songs that were re-recorded abd the ones that were from the Don Nelson sessions music wise. Great drum sound, great bass and guitar tones, well mixed, Joey sounds great, he even doesn't sound like Joey at all in some places, but in a good way. Stand outs? Earth on Hell, In the End, Fight 'em of course and Judas Priest. If this album doesn't re-establish Anthrax and put them were they belong, then the Music Industry is fucked.

P.S. I do have the album on order, I don't believe in dowloading for free, it takes money that's needed to fund future albums for our favourite bands and it takes longer for bands to repay record company debts.
 
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In the End is utterly epic.

This album is truly stunning. STUNNING!

And yes I've done the right thing and pre-ordered my copy. If you love this band then do the right thing and support them with your hard earned dosh.
 
I have heard most of it now. I am not blown away by the first spin. But as it is with most albums (at least good ones) you have to listen to it about 10 times before you really 'get it' so thats what i am going to do.

First impression I don't like many of the melodic 'big' choruses that are really pop sounding. But again thats after one time listening. I will probably throw down a few drinks and put it in my good stereo system and see what happens. But DEFINITELY sounds more like ANTHRAX than the previous 4 albums.
 
Being seemimgly the one dissenting voice is disappointing as I've been a huge 'Thrax fan since 1990 and PoT; even loved the John-era albums up to most of Volume 8.

After finally hearing 'Worship Music' yesterday a few times (and again this morning) - initial thoughts are disappointment. As one person mentioned above, a lot of the songs sound the same.

The guitar tones are still the Pantera-esque "nu metal" sound. That would be okay if the riffs and melodies were stellar, but for the most part the riffs don't have that spark that elevates them from 'good' to 'great'. Anthrax always had a gift for seriously catchy riffs and great melodies, they lost a little of that with half of Volume 8 & most of WCFYA. What seemed good on first listen with the new album was already losing lustre on 2nd and 3rd listens, save for some obvious exceptions - 'I'm Alive', 'Earth On Hell' & 'Crawl' are highlights.

Save for the genuinely few very good tracks, a lot of the others suffer from riffs and melodies that just aren't memorable. I really wanted to love this album and believe the hype. Myabe time will allow it to grow and I'll appreciate it a lot more but I have a feeling it'll be like 'Death Magnetic' - the more times that passes the less I play it.

I must be listening to a very different album that the reviews online that proclaim this as Anthrax's best album; imo it is very far from being anywhere near their best.

I have to agree. I actually like The Giant, Earth on Hell, and the Constant. But really Earth on Hell is the only thrash tune on the album. Im sorry but i don't really dig hard rock stuff and I certainly didn't get into Anthrax for hard rock. Joey did a good job although Anthrax was always about the counterpoint of Joeys melodic singing and Ians discordiant riffing. Now that Ian writes melodic stuff.. Joey has no counterpoint. Sounds like Maiden or something I guess. Not bad but not my thing.

I don't like many of the melodic 'big' choruses that are really pop sounding.
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Oh well I didn't really expect any different.:bah:
 
Stuck here on a business trip with a notebook which apparently has the sound system fucked... and the internet connection too slow to DL anything anyway. Have to wait I guess!
 
I have to agree. I actually like The Giant, Earth on Hell, and the Constant. But really Earth on Hell is the only thrash tune on the album. Im sorry but i don't really dig hard rock stuff and I certainly didn't get into Anthrax for hard rock. Joey did a good job although Anthrax was always about the counterpoint of Joeys melodic singing and Ians discordiant riffing. Now that Ian writes melodic stuff.. Joey has no counterpoint. Sounds like Maiden or something I guess. Not bad but not my thing.


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Oh well I didn't really expect any different.:bah:


I was thinking the same thing about having many maiden like influences. Which is why I don't understand why IM09 fan wouldn't like this new direction in song writing. They were kids when they wrote their classic material and now they're grown men with families. Change is inevitable. Only band that never changed their style in songwriting and continued to have success is AC/DC
 
Worship Music is a great record. I am happy with it.

Anyone else notice all the Battlestar Galactica quotes in the songs? I know some of the band members loved that show and you can sure hear it in this record. I wonder how many songs it was snuck into?

So far I have noticed:
Hell on Earth:
"So Say We All"-> Major religious saying used through the series (mostly by Cmdr Adama). Even the song reminds me of the pain of the "search for earth" with all the ticking clocks and bitching about earth.

Fight em till You Cant:
This song and the title seem to be inspired by scenes with Colonel Tigh and the fight against the Cylons on New Caprica. Pretty sure Tigh used this saying in the show even.
 
Worship Music is a great record. I am happy with it.

Anyone else notice all the Battlestar Galactica quotes in the songs? I know some of the band members loved that show and you can sure hear it in this record. I wonder how many songs it was snuck into?

So far I have noticed:
Hell on Earth:
"So Say We All"-> Major religious saying used through the series (mostly by Cmdr Adama). Even the song reminds me of the pain of the "search for earth" with all the ticking clocks and bitching about earth.

Fight em till You Cant:
This song and the title seem to be inspired by scenes with Colonel Tigh and the fight against the Cylons on New Caprica. Pretty sure Tigh used this saying in the show even.

Thanks for info. ;)
 
I was thinking the same thing about having many maiden like influences. Which is why I don't understand why IM09 fan wouldn't like this new direction in song writing. They were kids when they wrote their classic material and now they're grown men with families. Change is inevitable. Only band that never changed their style in songwriting and continued to have success is AC/DC

Im not hearing much Maiden. Even if I did I guess that's another story. Only Maiden can do Maiden. I'd like Anthrax to just sound like Anthrax and let other bands do their thing. It's almost like they are always trying to sound like some other band instead of sounding like themselves. Seems like most of the Bush era they were trying to sound like Pantera instead of themselves (but failed big time), now I am not sure.

But I still am not giving up completely on this album I have to really listen to it a bunch of times before I know how I really feel about it. Some of my favorite all time albums I didn't like the first few times I hear them. They are typically the ones that end up lasting longer. The ones that are catchy right off the bat usually get boring really fast.

This new sound is certainly better than the mainly nu metal influence on the last album. So I will see in a few weeks how I am feeling about it
 
Im not hearing much Maiden. Even if I did I guess that's another story. Only Maiden can do Maiden. I'd like Anthrax to just sound like Anthrax and let other bands do their thing. It's almost like they are always trying to sound like some other band instead of sounding like themselves. Seems like most of the Bush era they were trying to sound like Pantera instead of themselves (but failed big time), now I am not sure.

But I still am not giving up completely on this album I have to really listen to it a bunch of times before I know how I really feel about it. Some of my favorite all time albums I didn't like the first few times I hear them. They are typically the ones that end up lasting longer. The ones that are catchy right off the bat usually get boring really fast.

This new sound is certainly better than the mainly nu metal influence on the last album. So I will see in a few weeks how I am feeling about it


You just need to believe you'll love it nad you will! Just keep telling yourself "Joey is back and everthing is 1989 again" and it will be.
 
You're not making any sense guy. I don't think Joey had any less of a hand in writing on WM than he did on the classic stuff. I could be wrong, but I thought (since Turbin left) Charlie and Scott wrote all the music and Scott wrote all the lyrics.

Actually Joey was given more freedom to do his thing for the new album instead of being micro managed (word phrasing, key/note restrictions, etc.) and contributed to the reworking of the overall songs. The reworking / rewriting of the songs was more collaborative this time around.

All of the reports that have been coming out had all suggested that around 85% of the album had been recorded before you came in so it was more a case of demos had been put in place?

Well when I came in they had a good layout of the songs and I got a good idea of the tunes and I was singing, I was literally singing to two tracks, not like separate stuff, I was singing to two tracks that they gave me of basic stuff from the get go. I didn’t find anything finished at all, in fact there were times I was singing to the wrong cut [laughs]. They would just turn round and say “oh you’re singing to the wrong thing, we gave you the wrong one for that but that could kind of work” so they were far from done, not even close to it. Even if it was to a point where it was more done than not done it still didn’t really factor in to me as I didn’t think of it that way. I would know what is done or what doesn’t sound finished I should say, so at the same time if it was finished then that would have been fine but I never considered anything they gave me as being complete. I had to listen to all of the music to see where I was going to sing on there and how it would come together and it was pretty easy. Whatever I was using as a guide track was good enough for me as I do at home all of the time. I could finish the guitar and drums for a track and sing to that today without any bass guitar or any lead guitar as I’m so used to doing things like that. They could have given me a whole tune but there would have still been a lot of work to do on that song because it is empty without the vocal on it and nothing would really happen if we had not dug in deep and made everything work. You have to make all the elements work somehow and that won’t happen unless things change.

I saw an interview where Scott was talking about this and he was saying how they wanted to give you as much freedom as you needed, more or less an open door policy, to come in and change things as you seen fit to make the songs work.

I made changes but they weren’t so much like scrap that part, take that part out, move this part in, there weren’t a lot of enormous changes. I had a foundation of the riffs and the arrangement was fairly close but there were times I sang and they decided to re-record to my voice by putting down new guitar, new bass and new drums. Even ‘Fight ‘Em [Till You Can’t]’, we did that on the road for quite a while, we did that whole song and some others that they haven’t even heard vocal takes that I did which I was really happy about but there were just so many different kind of things going on. So yeah they gave me as much freedom as I could take without me wandering off or making so many changes that they didn’t want me to make. I didn’t make it hard for them and they didn’t make it hard for me at the same time as I think we work together quite good. When it came down to finishing the songs we didn’t have a whole lot of time to spend on it and I’m one who doesn’t like to spend a lot of time on a song, I don’t tend to dwell on a song for too long before I’d just say let’s write another one. If it is what it is and there are no changes to be made then fair enough but a lot of time they don’t allow you to do a lot things as they are what they are. If you take a song like ‘In The End’, I mean god that is a long song but then if you start thinking “oh that part is too long, why don’t we shorten that” you just need to say stop, it works the way it is and you don’t need to touch it. Back in the day or any other band might say “wow seven minutes, what the hell are we going to do with that, we need it to be like four minutes and twenty five seconds” but it’s cool the way it is and there is space to edit it if you want to but why bother.

http://espyrock.com/interviews/inte...na-im-a-great-choice-to-have-as-a-last-resort
 
I was thinking the same thing about having many maiden like influences. Which is why I don't understand why IM09 fan wouldn't like this new direction in song writing. They were kids when they wrote their classic material and now they're grown men with families. Change is inevitable. Only band that never changed their style in songwriting and continued to have success is AC/DC

I would argue that Manowar would fit in that catagory (almost every Manowar song: "KILL WITH POW-AH!! DIE DIE!! METAL YEAH! POSERS NO! DEATH TO FALSE METAL-AH! SATAN AND ODIN AND KILL-AH!!!"), but they never really acheived that whole "success" thing.:grin:

(Don't get me wrong, I would consider Manowar a "guilty pleasure." But it's fun to pick on them.)
 
I've pre-ordered the album, and I wasn't quite sure if I was going to download the leak....
But I did, and I've given it two spins so far.

What an album!
What a brilliant performance from Joey!
Ok...so the "Anthrash" debate will probably continue, but in my opinion this is a well written metal album where the band neatly combines the styles and elements of their career so far, and at the same time manages to bring something fresh to the table.

Solid performances from the entire band, but truth be told: If it wasn't for Joey, this album would probably never have happened, and the fact that he comes in after most of these tunes have already been written and recorded and manages to re-record the vocals in such a dedicated, intense and stunning fashion is quite an achievement. It's also evidence that the more melodic approach that Anthrax has taken to the music on their later releases fits Joey perfectly.


I couldn't have said it better!!

Along with the 2 early released tracks, I'm Alive and In the End are standing out as my early favorites! I am liking each track more and more with each listen! :Spin: