Xena and Brian, check this out

[phlogiston]

Maybe it was a steam train?

 

[Goreripper]

Ah but steam trains don't run on water. They burn coal and wood, heating the boiler that creates the steam that turns the turbines that turns the wheels that move the train. Or something like that.

 

[phlogiston]

Coal and wood AND water. They're just big space-heaters without water.

 

[KoichCPA]

They have heaters in space?

 

[Goreripper]

True, but even with the water, they wouldn't work without the coal or wood.

 

[Goreripper]

They have heaters in space?

What do you think the Sun is? It's not just there to look good, you know.

 

[phlogiston]

Koich: Space is bloody cold, you know.

Gore: Why do we fight like this? We both know we're both smart-arses.

 

[Goreripper]

That's why we do it. We have to out-smartarse each other.

 

[Goreripper]

Only Shannow's gunna log on and do it for us.

 

[Wenda]

water powered cars don't work...............unless he found a way to violate the second law of thermodynamics

IIRC, the theory behind water-powered cars was that they worked on hydrogen/oxygen fission...you'd need a small amount of power initially to produce an electronic current (provided by a battery) to begin splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen...the hydrogen was the fuel, oxygen was the exhaust

 

[Goreripper]

So you need a fission generator? And what powers that? I'd imagine it would need more than just a small battery to create the amount of energy it would take for this to occur. Probably more than you'd need to run the car?

 

[KoichCPA]

I go fission

 

[Shannow]

IIRC, the theory behind water-powered cars was that they worked on hydrogen/oxygen fission...you'd need a small amount of power initially to produce an electronic current (provided by a battery) to begin splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen...the hydrogen was the fuel, oxygen was the exhaust

The efficiency of a Knowles cell runs at around 70%, and an engine runs at less than 30% efficient. This gives the cycle 21% efficiency, which means that you need to supply 5 times as much electricity as the engine power you get out.

 

[Shannow]

Only Shannow's gunna log on and do it for us.

Hey, I resemble that implication !!!

 

[phlogiston]

Stupid Engineers.

Phloggy (BE (Elec & Comp) with Honours)

 

[KoichCPA]

HA geek

 

[Aussie_Outlaw]

When it's cheaper to fill up from the cooking aisle at Coles than it is at the local service station, you won't be laughing !!

[color=#aoeooa]How am I meant to get the vehicle into the store?

HUH!?!?! Didn't think of that one did we?[/color]

 

[Wenda]

The efficiency of a Knowles cell runs at around 70%, and an engine runs at less than 30% efficient. This gives the cycle 21% efficiency, which means that you need to supply 5 times as much electricity as the engine power you get out.

*grin* you have one-upped me

 

[Goreripper]

How am I meant to get the vehicle into the store?

The same way you get a ship in a bottle. Piece by piece. How you get it out again, now THAT'S the biggie.

 

[Shannow]

especially when it comes time to drag the fuel tank out.

It went into the store so easily, 10Kg of sheet steel, pressed into a rectangular shape that fits the floor of the car.

Then on the way out, it's got 50 or 60 kilos of oil in it. The fucking thing weighs a tonne.

I'd just knock a wall down, drive in and drive out.