opacity said:
@rahvin: i (read: me) am of the opinion that everything has an effect on anything/anyone else. not this very minute, not in some hours , but finally, it has.
as well as I'm of the opinion that nothing happens without reason. you don't see reason in my postings now. maybe not even in some months
and maybe it leads you to ponder about totally unrelated things, but it will have an effect finally
even if it's only that you get very angry about me spamming here
this already
would be an effect, see?
i see two paths here.
one involves at some point science, while the other deals with personal beliefs and faith. if you have a
belief in such things as "everything affecting everything else", "nothing happening without a reason", and "all can be reduced to energetic effects", then there is not much sense in my discussing the object of your faith here. i might want to investigate its regulations, inner logic, and how it determines your behaviour and lifestyle, but i wouldn't definitely debate its validity, as it doesn't need to have any aside from the psychological act of faith. it is - quite obviously - an act of faith i do not share, but it is by no means less justifiable than any other assumption which is based on an emotion instead of factual evidence. i still think at some point you'll need a (shareable) definition for concepts such as "energy" and "reason" in your creed, if only to understand what it is that you believe in.
the other concerns the realm of things that can be proved through conventional science, be it physics or chemistry or human sciences such as psychology or logic. in this latter case i would need evidence of something having an effect on something else, and causality is quite a strict issue even though we all might know about the butterfly effect. you can argue that a particle from planet jupiter hitting me on the head can suddenly make me think about polar bears, therefore making my day much better, but i argue that this influence is completely irrelevant in the face of other much more present influences that make me think about the crappy day i'm having. in much the same way, it's quite different to say that everything has a cause or a reason. a reason is a motive, and it implies will, in a very western/christian way of thinking. now i refute that is simply a matter of science that all things have a purpose: at some point there has to be a leap of faith towards the idea that a certain act is inherently a purpose in itself.
the example about your posts here and my reaction as an effect is not really on topic. your posts are not
everything, and thankfully i'm not
everything either, and the cause-effect mechanism between your posting and my replying to you is hardly proof of anything else but itself. i could as easily say that a star has an effect on me because i'm feeling very sad right now and
right now that star is pulsating faster than yesterday: no relation at all is proved, it's all an arbitrary decision of the observer of two phenomena who are as of yet unrelated.
as for "energy", i find this word either technically misplaced or a substitute for "bubu". do you even mean anything specific with it? or it's like saying "soul", "spirit", or "pretty soon"?