Zombies
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And if they are dead, then why do they need to eat? Hmm? Maybe it is needed to sustain the animation and slow the decay.
Zombie technicalities don't really worry me, but these concerns are part of the reason why I really enjoyed 28 Days later. The explanation for the behaviour of the diseased was reasonably flawless. Anyone seen the sequel? I am yet to but haven't seen or heard any reports on it yet.
I also liked the Resident Evil movie/movies (forget how many I saw) but I completely forget the plot to those.
Zombie technicalities don't really worry me, but these concerns are part of the reason why I really enjoyed 28 Days later. The explanation for the behaviour of the diseased was reasonably flawless. Anyone seen the sequel? I am yet to but haven't seen or heard any reports on it yet.
I also liked the Resident Evil movie/movies (forget how many I saw) but I completely forget the plot to those.
Blitzkrieg
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Somewhat related is "I Am Legend" which I saw last week. CG in movies pisses me off, but I don't want to throw out any spoilers by saying what it was that annoyed me.
The parts they did by evacuating New York were awesome.
The parts they did by evacuating New York were awesome.
Goreripper
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The reanimation mechanism reactivates the motor centres and the primal urges. They don't need to eat, they just feel the need to.
Everything I've heard about 28 Weeks Later has been bad; apparently its an Americanized Hollywood sequel where the Yanks turn up and save everyone, only to fuck it up so the disease escapes mainland Britain and goes global.
Shannow
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Would make for an interesting movie, I reckon...Authorities trying to get sympathy for invading Iraq using all sorts of compelling reasons, when the truth (that they don't want us to know) is that Saddam accidentally re-invented the gas from "Return of the Living Dead", and Iraq was full of zombies.
Bunch of Blackwater mercenaries getting their legs and skulls gnawed etc.
Not sure how zombies would fare in the heat of the desert.
Spiff
I have the power
Can zombies sweat? They'd need to be able to do that, or at least I'm guessing they would. Then again, maybe because they have no brain function they wouldn't be able to feel the heat... but that would be bad, because pain is the body's way of telling us that something hurts... but does it really hurt if we can't feel it?
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I'll take that as compliment
28 Weeks later was wicked to the best of my memory, if only for the helicopter scene! There will be 3rd installement. I got a horror nut buddy who also raved on it, a good sequel and it really upped the anti.
I am Legend: saw it last night, not bad, def. entertaining - the evac and the daytime stuff was cool, the Cgi was probably unneccessary.
In my first post on the subject i was trying to say that Brad Pitts company, Plan B, had bought the rights to World War Z. I'm always typing my replies in such a hurry so I often forget words and sometimes whole sentences, heheh.
Goreripper
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Zombies are reanimated corpses, but they're not "dead"; in the Romero universe their reason, intellect and learning capabilities are either destroyed or severly retarded but their motor functions and senses still work. They can see and hear and also react when they are set on fire or dismembered, so how "dead" they actually are is probably open to question. They also seem to retain vestigal memory capacity: in Dawn of the Dead, the Peter zombie remembers where the hidden door to the survivors' hideout is and leads the other zombies there and in Day one of them recognises a military uniform and salutes. He also learns to shave and use a gun. It's never made clear whether their excretory functions still work, but you would have to assume they would or eventually they would just burst.
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Spiff
I have the power
My tastes in zombie territory lie in the late 70s/early 80s Italian zombie exploitation films!
The ultimate is Lucio Fulci's "Zombie" aka. Zombi 2 (Italy) & Zombie Flesh Eaters (Aus/UK) from 1979. It's actually screening uncut & restored at The Astor in a week, I'll be there for sure!!! That is the one that pretty much started the whole overload of those movies coming out of Italy over the next couple of years.
The other ones I like are:
- "Zombi Holocaust" (aka. "Dr Butcher MD: Medical Deviate") from 1980, which starts out as a cannibal film & turns into a zombie film because of experiments by a demented doctor!!! Shoddy effects and atrocious dialogue but a fun & hilarious movie loaded with badly executed gore! Shot on the same location as "Zombie" very soon after it.
- "Hell Of The Living Dead" (aka. "Zombie Creeping Flesh", "Night Of The Zombies" and "Virus") from 1981. Made by Bruno Mattei who is a bit of a bottom of the barrel Italian director, making cheap Italian rip-offs of whatever was successful in America. Much better than his '83 film "Rats: Night Of Terror" which has the stupidest ending ever! Actually a pretty good film!
- "Burial Ground" (aka. "The Nights Of Terror") from 1980, by Andrea Bianchi who also did a great '75 giallo film called "Strip Nude For Your Killer". This is one of the shonkiest but hilarious thanks to a creepy kid who wants to have sex with his mum, turns into a zombie and dishes up an unreal incestuous breast-feeding finale!
There are 2 more Lucio Fulci films from 1980/1981 as well that aren't strictly zombie movies like the above ones, but have some zombie elements in them and are pretty good films... "City of The Living Dead" which is a little boring overall I think but the head-drilling scene & the chick spewing up her insides are unreal! And "House By The Cemetery" which is EXCELLENT and has lots of Fulci's trademark mysogonistic violence that he loves to keep the camera lingering on, probably my 3rd fave Fulci film after "The New York Ripper" (my fave, an infamous slasher/mystery about a killer with a Donald Duck voice hacking up women in New York's red light district, hated by women's groups for its mysogonistic violence always directed at their um, precious areas of the body..) and of course "Zombie".
The absolute bottom of the barrel that the Italian zombie genre sunk to, is the Joe D'Amato entries from 1981, which fused the zombie film & hardcore porn!! "Erotic Nights Of The Living Dead" and "Porno Holocaust". Worst ever horror/zombie scenes that you can imagine, backyard looking job... with extremely unattractive & unerotic hardcore porn mixed in with it. Whereas alot of the Italian sleaze did erotica really well (including D'Amatos earlier works in the 70s such as "Images In A Convent" and "Emanuelle In America" which is a CLASSIC!), these zombie-porn ones are atrocious. But I still love having "Porno Holocaust" on my shelf all the same, just for the classic cover!!!
You'd probably notice as well that alot of these Italian films love having multiple alternate titles haha.
I have a book called "Eaten Alive: Italian Zombie & Cannibal Films" which is awesome. It has stuff on pretty much every Italian cannibal & zombie flick from the 70s & 80s, as well as a handful of selected Italian nazisploitation/women in prison, giallo, sleaze & other exploitation stuff from that era. My favourite era of film!!!
The ultimate is Lucio Fulci's "Zombie" aka. Zombi 2 (Italy) & Zombie Flesh Eaters (Aus/UK) from 1979. It's actually screening uncut & restored at The Astor in a week, I'll be there for sure!!! That is the one that pretty much started the whole overload of those movies coming out of Italy over the next couple of years.
The other ones I like are:
- "Zombi Holocaust" (aka. "Dr Butcher MD: Medical Deviate") from 1980, which starts out as a cannibal film & turns into a zombie film because of experiments by a demented doctor!!! Shoddy effects and atrocious dialogue but a fun & hilarious movie loaded with badly executed gore! Shot on the same location as "Zombie" very soon after it.
- "Hell Of The Living Dead" (aka. "Zombie Creeping Flesh", "Night Of The Zombies" and "Virus") from 1981. Made by Bruno Mattei who is a bit of a bottom of the barrel Italian director, making cheap Italian rip-offs of whatever was successful in America. Much better than his '83 film "Rats: Night Of Terror" which has the stupidest ending ever! Actually a pretty good film!
- "Burial Ground" (aka. "The Nights Of Terror") from 1980, by Andrea Bianchi who also did a great '75 giallo film called "Strip Nude For Your Killer". This is one of the shonkiest but hilarious thanks to a creepy kid who wants to have sex with his mum, turns into a zombie and dishes up an unreal incestuous breast-feeding finale!
There are 2 more Lucio Fulci films from 1980/1981 as well that aren't strictly zombie movies like the above ones, but have some zombie elements in them and are pretty good films... "City of The Living Dead" which is a little boring overall I think but the head-drilling scene & the chick spewing up her insides are unreal! And "House By The Cemetery" which is EXCELLENT and has lots of Fulci's trademark mysogonistic violence that he loves to keep the camera lingering on, probably my 3rd fave Fulci film after "The New York Ripper" (my fave, an infamous slasher/mystery about a killer with a Donald Duck voice hacking up women in New York's red light district, hated by women's groups for its mysogonistic violence always directed at their um, precious areas of the body..) and of course "Zombie".
The absolute bottom of the barrel that the Italian zombie genre sunk to, is the Joe D'Amato entries from 1981, which fused the zombie film & hardcore porn!! "Erotic Nights Of The Living Dead" and "Porno Holocaust". Worst ever horror/zombie scenes that you can imagine, backyard looking job... with extremely unattractive & unerotic hardcore porn mixed in with it. Whereas alot of the Italian sleaze did erotica really well (including D'Amatos earlier works in the 70s such as "Images In A Convent" and "Emanuelle In America" which is a CLASSIC!), these zombie-porn ones are atrocious. But I still love having "Porno Holocaust" on my shelf all the same, just for the classic cover!!!
You'd probably notice as well that alot of these Italian films love having multiple alternate titles haha.
I have a book called "Eaten Alive: Italian Zombie & Cannibal Films" which is awesome. It has stuff on pretty much every Italian cannibal & zombie flick from the 70s & 80s, as well as a handful of selected Italian nazisploitation/women in prison, giallo, sleaze & other exploitation stuff from that era. My favourite era of film!!!
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A horny mutant, cannibalistic zombie?
I know I've seen most of your movies Trent but most were such a long time I can barely remember. Are you finding these at videostores? I saw Cannibal ferrox on the shelf the other day...
I watched Zombietown on the weekend, more running zombies... it was a comedy/gore flick, not to be taken seriously but I found my attention wavering. It starts really slow and seemed to drawn out at times but once it got going it was amusing. Loved the zombie cop with walking around with his pants around his ankles! Don't expect much, the acting is hammed up, most likely intentionally but I imagine this was not always the case.
I know I've seen most of your movies Trent but most were such a long time I can barely remember. Are you finding these at videostores? I saw Cannibal ferrox on the shelf the other day...
I watched Zombietown on the weekend, more running zombies... it was a comedy/gore flick, not to be taken seriously but I found my attention wavering. It starts really slow and seemed to drawn out at times but once it got going it was amusing. Loved the zombie cop with walking around with his pants around his ankles! Don't expect much, the acting is hammed up, most likely intentionally but I imagine this was not always the case.
Spiff
I have the power
I believe I actually saw Cannibal Ferox when I was about six. Always knew it as Woman from Deep River and just happened to look it up last night. All I remember of it is a woman tied to a tree getting hooks put through one (or was it both?) of her breasts, and a guy tied to a tree who got his old fella cut off and the cannibal dude ate it. Is this the same film?
Yes, my mum was fine with me watching these sorts of films at such a tender age.
Yes, my mum was fine with me watching these sorts of films at such a tender age.
Yep that sure is the same film Spiffy Woman From Deep River was the Australian & US video title, and was cut by censors. Cannibal Ferox is the original title and the one used now on the uncut DVD.
As for running zombies, I really don't mind as long as the film is entertaining haha. But generally I think they should walk slowly. Best zombies ever are in Fulci's "Zombie" I think. They look the best.
I buy the US DVDs usually. Its pretty cheap to order them online in bulk every now and then - when my credit card isn't maxed that is haha. I have some on videotape too that I find on sale at old video stores but most of the Australian tapes of that Italian stuff were pretty censored so I still seek out the DVDs anyway.
Woman From Deep River was the Australian & US video title, and was cut by censors. Cannibal Ferox is the original title and the one used now on the uncut DVD.As for running zombies, I really don't mind as long as the film is entertaining haha. But generally I think they should walk slowly. Best zombies ever are in Fulci's "Zombie" I think. They look the best.
I buy the US DVDs usually. Its pretty cheap to order them online in bulk every now and then - when my credit card isn't maxed that is haha. I have some on videotape too that I find on sale at old video stores but most of the Australian tapes of that Italian stuff were pretty censored so I still seek out the DVDs anyway.
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Shannow
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Also Lestat in Anne Rices books hardened anought that he developed a tan.
Lumley's vampires were a little less hardened, but did recover from a suntan if their leech was up to it.
Lumley's vampires were a little less hardened, but did recover from a suntan if their leech was up to it.
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