08 US Presidential Race

The sad thing is, that while the rest of the world can see these things. Too many Americans cannot, it's going to be 2004 all over again.
 
The sad thing is, that while the rest of the world can see these things. Too many Americans cannot, it's going to be 2004 all over again.

the sadder thing is, when people say what you just said, which is COMPLETELY true, you get branded as a delusional conspiracy theorist :erk:

you guys do realize mccain finished fifth from the bottom of his naval academy class right? :lol:
 
oh and viewer from nihil: you're a cunt. honestly. you are the intolerant asshole redneck that has propagated and spawned this wave of idiocy across this country. yes i'm talking about your sig.

boo fucking hoo. just because you're a little bitch who can't handle a mildly offensive joke doesn't mean you go around saying shit about people you don't know. fuck you.


also, i love the argument that you have with the "wave of idiocracy" when YOU are the one going with the popular, mainstream, young voter, liberal media opinion. i don't piss on your view so don't piss on mine. i'm a conservative and i'm proud of it... you don't like it? boo fucking hoo



edit: just adding, i don't like mccain and i hate palin even more. however, obama is a fucking jack ass motivational speaker with no real plan for change
 
boo fucking hoo. just because you're a little bitch who can't handle a mildly offensive joke doesn't mean you go around saying shit about people you don't know. fuck you.


also, i love the argument that you have with the "wave of idiocracy" when YOU are the one going with the popular, mainstream, young voter, liberal media opinion. i don't piss on your view so don't piss on mine. i'm a conservative and i'm proud of it... you don't like it? boo fucking hoo



edit: just adding, i don't like mccain and i hate palin even more. however, obama is a fucking jack ass motivational speaker with no real plan for change

I was going to ask why you think McCain would make a good President and would pull your country out of the squaller it is currently in...

But fuck it, there's no point. You are simply one of the dimwitted, ignorant, narrow minded, blind, racists that are destroying your country. Congratulations, you have ruined the country you claim to love so much.
 
I was going to ask why you think McCain would make a good President and would pull your country out of the squaller it is currently in...

But fuck it, there's no point. You are simply one of the dimwitted, ignorant, narrow minded, blind, racists that are destroying your country. Congratulations, you have ruined the country you claim to love so much.

and you're a typical narrow minded, dimwitted, blind, ignorant... wait, we have opposite views and couldn't picture the other person being right in any way so... what the fuck is name calling going to accomplish? nothing, which is why i cannot stand debating a topic with you, you resort to name calling, you're immature, and i think you're just as ignorant as you think i am.
 
The difference between you and I is that my opinion is educated and somewhat un-biased. I'm not an American, I can't even vote, it barely effects me, I don't even have a political stance in UK politics. However just out of interest I have looked into the candidates for the election and what their policies and plans are. And, being someone with a brain, I can tell that McCain is simply Bush 2.0 and is exactly what America does NOT need. Whereas Obama, who is far from perfect, will at least effect America somewhat positively.

You, are brainwashed and blinded by your own patriotism and bias.

Why else do you think that EVERYONE in EVERY other country in the world can see that McCain and Palin winning is a terrible idea? Just like in the 2004 elections with Bush?
 
and you're a typical narrow minded, dimwitted, blind, ignorant... wait, we have opposite views and couldn't picture the other person being right in any way so... what the fuck is name calling going to accomplish? nothing, which is why i cannot stand debating a topic with you, you resort to name calling, you're immature, and i think you're just as ignorant as you think i am.

so even though your opinion is the spawn of an unintelligent, uniformed, illiterate shitstorm, we should accept/agree with it because it's "different." you're still fucking retarded either way.

edit: and if you took the time to actually look at what swabs is saying, it is completely valid and informed. it's actually a persuasive argument. looking at your "arguments," which have absolutely no substance whatsoever, you completely invalidate yourself. congratulations on making a fool of yourself.
 
The difference between you and me is that my opinion is educated and somewhat un-biased. I'm not an American, I can't even vote, it barely effects me. However just out of interest I have looked into the candidates for the election and what their policies and plans are. And, being someone with a brain, I can tell that McCain is simply Bush 2.0 and is exactly what America does NOT need. Whereas Obama, who is far from perfect, will at least effect America somewhat positively.

You, are brainwashed and blinded by your own patriotism and bias.

and i think that the fact that you aren't american does make you biased and somewhat brainwashes you. also, i'm sick of being called brain washed, if i were brain washed, i'd probably be agreeing with you.

do i like the iraq war?
no but we need to finish what we started

is universal health care a good idea?
yes, but it would slow us down to canada's speed (not being racist, i do have a point) we don't have to go on waiting lists for life saving surgeries (too lazy to go into specific surgeries) like france and canada. and we don't have to wait for months for surgery because of the health care system we have. it needs to be changed but, universal isn't the way to go

do we need to do everything in our power to fix the economy?
yes, but obama has no real plan to fix it




once again, i don't like mccain, but i'd rather him win the election than obama. and i could give a shit less if obama was black, yellow, or a fucking martian, i make fun of him because i don't agree with him, not because he's a secret muslim...




that was a joke























haha
 
and i think that the fact that you aren't american does make you biased and somewhat brainwashes you. also, i'm sick of being called brain washed, if i were brain washed, i'd probably be agreeing with you.

do i like the iraq war?
no but we need to finish what we started

is universal health care a good idea?
yes, but it would slow us down to canada's speed (not being racist, i do have a point) we don't have to go on waiting lists for life saving surgeries (too lazy to go into specific surgeries) like france and canada. and we don't have to wait for months for surgery because of the health care system we have. it needs to be changed but, universal isn't the way to go

do we need to do everything in our power to fix the economy?
yes, but obama has no real plan to fix it




once again, i don't like mccain, but i'd rather him win the election than obama. and i could give a shit less if obama was black, yellow, or a fucking martian, i make fun of him because i don't agree with him, not because he's a secret muslim...




that was a joke























haha

do we need privatized social security?
no, are you fuckign stupid?

do we need 100 more years of war with iraq?
no, are you fucking stupid?

do we need war with Iran?
no, are you fucking stupid?

do we need someone who opposes roe v. wade?
no, are you fucking stupid?

should we want someone who is quoted as saying, "the issue of economics is something that I’ve never really understood as well as I should?"
because apparently 47 million Americans without health insurance isn't a problem?

will drilling in alaska solve the oil crisis?
no, are you fucking stupid?

how about the cluster fuck that was hurricane katrina?
McCain and Bush were busy cutting cake in Arizona. it was McCaine's birthday.

John McCain finished in the bottom of his Naval Academy Class. Barack Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review.

are you fucking stupid?
 
so even though your opinion is the spawn of an unintelligent, uniformed, illiterate shitstorm, we should accept/agree with it because it's "different." you're still fucking retarded either way.

edit: and if you took the time to actually look at what swabs is saying, it is completely valid and informed. it's actually a persuasive argument. looking at your "arguments," which have absolutely no substance whatsoever, you completely invalidate yourself. congratulations on making a fool of yourself.

and congratulations in being a fucking liberal dick. also, why am i illiterate? because i could give a shit less. uninformed? fuck you, i've spent hours researching both candidates and deciding which i preferred. sorry that you'd rather suck obama's cock than try to accept somebody else's opinion as a true and valid opinion of a human being who has different views than you. unintelligent? you're proving how much of a genius you are trying to make people on the internet look smaller than you.


i've listened to everything that swabs has said and respected all of his opinions, do i agree? no. does that make me and "idiot"? no, but it shows how much of a life you have... posting on forums and cradling the rolling stones magazine
 
and i think that the fact that you aren't american does make you biased and somewhat brainwashes you.

Explain how?

I have NO preference for any party in US politics, I'm simply saying things how I see them, from a logical and rational standpoint.

I don't see ANY propaganda in the form of TV ads or other media.

Whoever wins won't really affect me at all.

I don't suffer from any parental, family or friend pressure to see things from a certain political viewpoint.

I don't even have a specific political idealogy.

And I don't even care for UK politics.

I'm simply observing the facts and coming to a conclusion.

Fuck this, I'm going to bed. but before I go I leave you with these.





 
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and congratulations in being a fucking liberal dick. also, why am i illiterate? because i could give a shit less. uninformed? fuck you, i've spent hours researching both candidates and deciding which i preferred. sorry that you'd rather suck obama's cock than try to accept somebody else's opinion as a true and valid opinion of a human being who has different views than you. unintelligent? you're proving how much of a genius you are trying to make people on the internet look smaller than you.


i've listened to everything that swabs has said and respected all of his opinions, do i agree? no. does that make me and "idiot"? no, but it shows how much of a life you have... posting on forums and cradling the rolling stones magazine

you still fail to respond with any kind of valid argument. congratulations.

oh, and good job pointedly ignoring my last post