dorian gray said:^nnnoooo! what happened with all within my monster? did i miss it? and howd you know he is atlas shrugged? (that *would* explain some things)
NineFeetUnderground said:iron maiden isnt progressive...and they werent in the past either. they took the sound that bands like boston, wishbone ash, early scorpions and UFO had and applied it more to metal and the NWOBHM sound that was being crafted at the time. granted they were innovative and great...but not necessarily progressive.
If every band which got better over time or changed their sound at some point was considered progressive...then there would only be one genre of music.
the problem here is that i dont consider a band progressive due to a sound...its due to their execution, arrangements, progression in playing and songwriting, and their unique additions to the genre....
and it seems many people here are just wanting to classify a band as progressive simply because they have keyboard solos, or longish songs, or technical and complicated time signatures, etc. Granted those can be elements in progressive rock music...but it isnt defined as such by them...and certainly not restricted to that 30 years later when none of that is groundbreaking, original or unique anymore.
NineFeetUnderground said:complicated time signatures, long uncatchy songs and odd arrangements doesnt make you a progressive band necessarily.
many many many progressive bands are catchy...and many many many progressive bands often stick to a 4-5 minute song structure.Evil Ernie said:I guess that is where our opinions differ. I think these elements, among others, DO make you a progressive band.
yeah cant we all just get along?Themoor666 said:I am scared of this forum... you guys get pretty angry lol
bangadrian said:i never said opeth wasn't progressive musically, but they are clearly not a progressive metal band.
deliverance said:i could have sworn it was called thrash
what i think this is...is a textbook case of you trying to be different, and state that Opeth isnt progressive...so that all the fanboys get upset and you seem like the know it all elitest genre nazi.bangadrian said:what is so hard to understand about this? just because a band experiments with their music, and does new things, doesn't make them a "progressive rock" band!
example:
elvis presley did things for the rock and roll genre that had never been done before... he took the genre to new places, thus he PROGRESSED the genre. would you call elvis a progressive rock musician?
led zeppelin and black sabbath are perhaps the 2 most musically progressive heavy metal bands in history, but i certainly wouldn't classify them as "progressive metal".
do you see my point? so just because opeth is creative and inventive doesn't make them a prog metal band in my mind. if every band that ever tried anything new was called "progressive", then the term would lose its meaning.
bangadrian said:what is so hard to understand about this? just because a band experiments with their music, and does new things, doesn't make them a "progressive rock" band!
example:
elvis presley did things for the rock and roll genre that had never been done before... he took the genre to new places, thus he PROGRESSED the genre. would you call elvis a progressive rock musician?
led zeppelin and black sabbath are perhaps the 2 most musically progressive heavy metal bands in history, but i certainly wouldn't classify them as "progressive metal".
do you see my point? so just because opeth is creative and inventive doesn't make them a prog metal band in my mind. if every band that ever tried anything new was called "progressive", then the term would lose its meaning.
bangadrian said:well they certainly aren't progressive rock.
frankly speaking i'll never buy that shit. im pretty sure he knows a lot of guitar theory.bangadrian said:mikael knows next to nothing about theory (as you'll see if you ever watch that guitar.com interview), and he writes a passage or a riff a certain way just because it sounds good to him.