5 bands that should be PUT TO DEATH!

[Belligerent]

Thanks, trying to show my diverse tastes. I never see myself getting sick of either of those 2 albums. Both are masterpieces in their own right.

 

[razoredge]

lol... to paraphrase the old adage, "faggots hate death metal because it hurts their pussies."

case proven, with a reaction like that sounds like you might be hormonally challenged

 

[razoredge]

Wow, this just shows me, you don't know what your talking about, man. I suggest strongly that you spend some time with Opeth's "Damnation." from 2003. Although, this is "a vocally clean" album(as you know Mr Akerfeldt sings "death" vocals as well) I challenge you to find a better vocalist in any fuckin' genre of music after you've listened to this.

Sorry, you are wrong. I have Damnation and like it alot when Im in the mood for that sort of thing. I havent listened to it since last winter though. Opeth has a few other songs I like alot to where Akerfeldt changes it up, if not, I tire of it. Ghost of Perdition is an awsome song, might make my top 100. Black Water Park is a interesting progression as well, "vocals"?... background noise. Akerfeldt is a good singer when he sings. He has a nice voice, but hardly the dynamics of those I feel are metals greatest vocalists. So I'll have no problem meeting and conquering your challenge..........

Opeths variety is hardly a vocal example of the genre. Let alone the mellow Damnation.

Allagach or however its spelled ? I tried them and its not for me, kinda dull and boring.I would not wish them death though.

Your Avatar ? Russell Allan as well as the dude that once sang for Kenny Wayne Shepherd have a similiar look. Not that I think its them but I figured being how we were on the subject of people that could actually sing and who looks like who I'd bring it up......

 

[Alter]

Wow, this just shows me, you don't know what your talking about, man. I suggest strongly that you spend some time with Opeth's "Damnation." from 2003. Although, this is "a vocally clean" album(as you know Mr Akerfeldt sings "death" vocals as well) I challenge you to find a better vocalist in any fuckin' genre of music after you've listened to this.

There a ton of much better vocalists. That is such a bad statement.

 

[thisisaformicatable]

case proven, with a reaction like that sounds like you might be hormonally challenged

What, laughing at an idiot? Try learning the basics about music (or at least metal) sometime, you might improve your contributions here to the point where they serve as more than entertaining displays of willful ignorance.

 

[razoredge]

hey....... your tellin the story..... great educated one. Im sure you will rub off on me anytime soon......... :zombie: like around the time you figure out what you are talking about and back it up with words, cause like, you've said nothing with any meaning yet other than to show you've heard the word faggot somewhere and learned how to spell it. Picking up on "old adages" and repeating them is very impressive too..... if your a parrot

 

[thisisaformicatable]

I only aspire to match your ignorance with a response on an appropriate level, why bother debating? I'd rather just laugh at the hilarious confidence you exhibit when addressing genres that lie outside of your obviously tiny musical frame of reference. Your posts on punk, metal, post-rock... please keep it up, the "I know nothing about this subject yet I have a very strong opinion on it" approach is fantastic.

 

[razoredge]

I have no limited scope of music. there is some shit out there that I have heard and will not listen to, dont let it get your panties all in a bunch. But forget that... how did you get on the subject of music when all I said was something expressing my distaste for the current trend in metal "vocals". I said nothing about the music, now whos the retard with miniscule comprehension skills. As for my feelings on punk they stand firm, I remember the era and I remember the disfunctional cult following as well as the low value of the music. I stated my piece and left it alone, dont take it so hard. THEN as for points I made on so called "post rock" and the need to create new genre names for the same old shit, possibly only evolved which is highly debatable, I fail to your lack of comprehension for that either. In fact I believe I illustrated a very understandable satire of such nonsence. Get over it.

 

[SentinelSlain]

I think you can say that a genre's name sounds annoying without having heard the music. I would still listen to it though.

Post rock - sorry had rock died? I was still listening to stuff that came out 20 or 30 years before I was born.

 

[thisisaformicatable]

I have no limited scope of music.

dont let it get your panties all in a bunch.

dont take it so hard.

Get over it.

You misunderstand, I'm simply laughing at you. That's why I asked you to continue, it's entertaining.

But forget that... how did you get on the subject of music when all I said was something expressing my distaste for the current trend in metal "vocals". I said nothing about the music, now whos the retard with miniscule comprehension skills.

Vocals aren't part of the music?

As for my feelings on punk they stand firm, I remember the era and I remember the disfunctional cult following as well as the low value of the music.

"I know nothing about this subject yet I have a very strong opinion on it"

THEN as for points I made on so called "post rock" and the need to create new genre names for the same old shit, possibly only evolved which is highly debatable, I fail to your lack of comprehension for that either.

"I know nothing about this subject yet I have a very strong opinion on it"

 

[SentinelSlain]

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[razoredge]

issues but nothing to say.... yet wants to put words in quotations in my name... interesting, but not entertaining, like I said get over it.

 

[The Butt]

Sorry, old school boy here that believes good singing is good singing and mutated monotone noise, is mutated monotone noise. I have sampled many bands that had musicians with great ability and suddenly this mutated non musical sound would begin being transmitted through a microphone and I would very shortly click stop, right click, click delete and never venture into that bands music again. I'm into music, not mutations, not horror stories and not wannabe big bad sick tuff boys that have never nor could ever tow the line (POSERS). I'm well aware of the "heritage" of "black metal" and "death metal", great chapters in the history of mankind, must be the pride of the white race ? Dont expect it to rub off on me. Linkin Park, Slipknot and Korn are not on my listening list and I'd fail to even be able to give a song title. I know at least Korn was a band that made me sick the first time I was "exposed".

I'll paraphrase a couple of my posts from the Black-sabbath boards, in response to this post:

I really dislike it when close-minded classic rock fans rag on harsh vocals all the time; vocal range isn't everything. Sure, guttural vocals don't sound "soothing" or "beautiful", but is that what metal is about? Sounding beautiful? I don't think that's why you or I started listening to metal in the first place.

To use an analogy, I view growling vocalists as the Jackson Pollocks of the musical world; the work may not sound necessarily streamlined or soothing, but it takes a lot of effort, and is thought-provoking and entertaining nonetheless (equally so to clean vocals). Which is really all music is about, is entertaining people.

It's may not be your vocal style of preference, but it's a vocal style nonetheless, as good or as valid as clean singing (takes the same amount of effort too). It's a fact and cannot be refuted.

But then again, it seems to be that you have the "newfangled music is bad" mindset, and nothing's going to change that, so I shouldn't be wasting time on you.

 

[razoredge]

look ! whats the big fuckin deal ? Its not worth people who like that kind of stuff to get all worked up over those who critize it... it is what it is. They arent singing they are making MONOTONE saturday morning cartoon villian noises(which backs up your entertainment idea). They also lack having much rhythmic value. Metal is and has been a wide spectrum of styles since the early 80's. So saying someone thinks metal vocals are supposed to be pretty is pretty....... pretty lame. Not to critize your well written and tactful responce but that point really stood out as a distraction to the main point or issue. Now another thing that is very contradictory about the whole non musical approach to conveying lyrics is.... we have a style of music which prides itself heavily on instrumental prowess and virtuosity, groove and rythmic feel, yet the "vocals" are a constant ___ (pick your note, only one) and typically carry for a full measure or more. Now if a guitar player stood up there and played every solo on his low dropped B, combined with little rhythmic feel you all would say "man that dude sucks". Now put in that perspective I can only hope you might get an understanding as to why there are those of us who think as we do.

 

[thisisaformicatable]

Seriously, you're on the level of "those damn kids with their rock music!" You're stuck on popular misconceptions, you obviously have an extremely shallow understanding of the things you criticize, and you're obviously out of your comfort zone.

 

[razoredge]

But then again, it seems to be that you have the "newfangled music is bad" mindset, and nothing's going to change that, so I shouldn't be wasting time on you.

Just to wake everyone up from their centralized focus on something I did not say. I said

"I have sampled many bands that had musicians with great ability and suddenly this mutated non musical sound would begin being transmitted through a microphone and I would very shortly click stop, right click, click delete and never venture into that bands music again."

I never once said anything about the music, in fact I implied I liked it until.......

 

[razoredge]

Seriously, you're on the level of "those damn kids with their rock music!" You're stuck on popular misconceptions, you obviously have an extremely shallow understanding of the things you criticize, and you're obviously out of your comfort zone.

Look how about instead of attacking me the person for how I feel about what I have listened to and formed my opinions on you put your own input into the topic. Because all you've done so far is alot of name calling, slander and fabrication of who I am and what I've said. No one has ever steered me, nor do I apply to conformity such as your "popular misconceptions". The stuff is what it is, you like it or you dont. I dont, get over it.

 

[The Butt]

The stuff is what it is, you like it or you dont. I dont, get over it.

That's fine that you don't like harsh vocals. I never said I had a problem with that. But when you go around saying that the metal scene is shitty just because you don't like harsh vocals, harsh vocalists are a bunch of posers, and/or they "aren't really singing" (by that logic, I guess you don't like birds singing, seeing as they sing in monotone), don't expect people not to get pissed at you.

Guttural vocals are used in death and black metal, because it fits the atmosphere of the music. If Behemoth, or Burzum, for example, were to use clean vocals, it just wouldn't sound right. Do you understand what I'm saying? You say that you have no problem with the music, and that it's only the vocals that piss you off; but meanwhile, it's the style of the music that causes these bands to use guttural vocals in the first place.

There is a time and a place for clean vocals, just like there is a time and a place for harsh vocals. Sometimes (99% of black and death metal, for example), clean vocals just don't belong.

 

[razoredge]

I have no problem with you dude. I have listenend to some very heavy music where the vocalists do sing and they dont exactly sing "clean". You should also know that I live in an area that is heavily populated by some of the sweetest songbirds and they do not sing in monotone. Then there are crows & starlings.... I wont make any comparisions.
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The title of this thread is "bands that should die", everyone is coming here happily bashing entire bands and at least posing as lynchmen, this seems to be acceptable. I make a few comments about non musical vocals and a few people get all pissed off. Seems kinda contradictory and wanky to me.

 

[BloodSword]

There a ton of much better vocalists. That is such a bad statement.

Well, according to some on this forum I'm just a complete idiot for using "Damnnation" ae an example. Originally, I was trying to convey to the Razors Edge that Mr. Akerfeldt's "clean" voice is, imo, one of the best in any genre. And I stand with my fist and bloody sword raised triumphantly in that regard. For a taste of his "death" vocals listen to "Brave Murder Day" by Katatonia and be crushed by possibly the best "death" vocal display ever. Razors Edge strikes me as someone who could be in bed with Marilyn Monroe or Catherine Zeta Jones(or insert your own Goddess) and find something to complain about. There's no communicating with some people. I always love those people who make statements, like the one above by Alter, and do NOTHING to back it up. Give me some substantiation.