6505 vs. 6505+

[blackcom]

Does anyone know if 6505 and 6505+ has the same tonal difference that
5150mk1 and 5150mk2 has?

 

[poidaobi]

Does anyone know if 6505 and 6505+ has the same tonal difference that
5150mk1 and 5150mk2 has?

No. Because the Mk1 and Mk2 have the same tonal features.

 

[blackcom]

But I thought mk2 had a bit "fizzier" distortion as some mentioned?

 

[kaomao]

between mk1(6505) and mk2(6505+) there's a difference in the tonal structure.
There's no difference between a 5150 and a 6505, and between a 5150II and a 6505+.

 

[poidaobi]

But I thought mk2 had a bit "fizzier" distortion as some mentioned?

Oops. I thought he meant Block vs Sig. Not 5150 vs 5150 II

 

[blackcom]

Does anyone know wich one 5150mk1/6505 and 5150mk2/6506+ that's prefered by the majority? machine head used a 5150mk1 on their two first albums, diden't they?

 

[nwright]

seems like a lot of people say the 6505/5150 is the more aggressive one. I own a 6505+ (5150II) and I can get to the same place with an EQ in the loop. Even without it, the 2 amps are REALLY close, IMO. I've owned both.

And, yes MH uses a 5150. On Through the Ashes..., Robb also used a Line 6 FlextoneII head for additional low end.

 

[JeffTD]

I prefer the original - the II is a bit twangier overall, and doesn't have as much kick in the low end IMO.

 

[Eduardo Apolonia]

I have a 5150 I and a 5150 II and the II has a fizzier and thinner distortion.

 

[blackcom]

Hmmm, am actually hearing some people here and there saying the new 6506 line doesen't have the same kick as the 5150 due to some change in parts....and some says its the very same amps....yikes, getting a bit confused here....

 

[Jackal_Strain]

They're the same.

 

[nwright]

Hmmm, am actually hearing some people here and there saying the new 6506 line doesen't have the same kick as the 5150 due to some change in parts....and some says its the very same amps....yikes, getting a bit confused here....

They are the same amps...IF people hear a difference, I'd say it's because of a potential change in the stock tubes...I don't know what was stock in the 5150's, but my 6505+ came stock with Sovtek power tubes, EH pre's.

 

[blackcom]

May I ask why you chose the 6505+ over the 6505(mark1)?

 

[FULLMETALSPEEDO]

The only differences in the 5150 vs 6505 are where the logos are placed on the front of the amp. The tonal quality is the same.

 

[Wolfeman]

Isn't it possible that small components like caps and resistors could be different brands, making a slight change in sound? Even though it's technically the exact same design and schematic, I bet they changed vendors for certain parts over time....

 

[Jackal_Strain]

Yes, but that would also mean that there is a difference in the sound of old vs new 5150's.

 

[Kazrog]

A lot of the tonal differences people percieve are because of tubes. I put JJ/Teslas in my 6505+ and it sounds way better than the stock Ruby and Electro-Harmonix tubes.

 

[blackcom]

mmm....you're saying mark1 and mark2 sounds a little different because they sometimes comes with different stock tubes....kind of find that hard to belive as others allways refer to the mk1 and thicker and moore agressive while mk2 is thinner and fizzier....or maybe am wrong?

Anyone here who has both mk1 and mk2?

(oh, I can't try out an mk1 where I live unless I "order and buy it"...gah...)

 

[JeffTD]

mmm....you're saying mark1 and mark2 sounds a little different because they sometimes comes with different stock tubes....kind of find that hard to belive as others allways refer to the mk1 and thicker and moore agressive while mk2 is thinner and fizzier....or maybe am wrong?

Anyone here who has both mk1 and mk2?

(oh, I can't try out an mk1 where I live unless I "order and buy it"...gah...)

I've tried them both with JJ's in the pre/poweramp - II does sound thinner/fizzier.

 

[blackcom]

Diden't they use MK2's on Chimaira's recent record, sounded pretty badass I think...?