AlexB CLC Pro Released!!!! whoo
- Thread starter Ermz
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Heads up guys, I've just updated the drum comparison, this time manually trying to match them as close as possible since the Q figures aren't quite right.
This time I've processed the Kick, Snare and Overheads.
Nebula 4k Drums
Waves 4k Drums
This time I've processed the Kick, Snare and Overheads.
Nebula 4k Drums
Waves 4k Drums
Joshua Wickman
Yes Sir!
Wow the Nebula ssl walks all over the Waves in this. The waves almost seems like its adding some low mids as well and is kinda making in muddy or a bit cloudy if you will. The Nebula ssl version is clean as fuck and sounds so sick! What did you do here as far as eq, like just one band boost on both in the same freq?
Don't worry, I already did that for you
I figured you did. I'm just so used to doing it now that not doing it feels like leaving the house without knowing if you locked the door.
Wild Hades
Clean channels are for pussies
Thanks for your time doing this, Ermin.
To be honest I was expecting a bigger difference in favour of the Nebula stuff, but I think the Waves plugins are doing a fine work overall...
Referring to the last comparison, I think I prefer the E-Channel on the kick and Nebula on OHs and snare (it seems to bring out a bit more the snare decay, but I may be wrong).
I'm listening through shitty headphones anyway.
One last thing: what happens if you run a sine-wave through the Waves E-Channel? Does it add harmonics like Nebula or is clear? I'm curious to know if the E-Channel is just a "digital" eq or has some non-linear stuff into it...
To be honest I was expecting a bigger difference in favour of the Nebula stuff, but I think the Waves plugins are doing a fine work overall...
Referring to the last comparison, I think I prefer the E-Channel on the kick and Nebula on OHs and snare (it seems to bring out a bit more the snare decay, but I may be wrong).
I'm listening through shitty headphones anyway.
One last thing: what happens if you run a sine-wave through the Waves E-Channel? Does it add harmonics like Nebula or is clear? I'm curious to know if the E-Channel is just a "digital" eq or has some non-linear stuff into it...
kev
Im guybrush threepwood
Ermin's nebula clips are definitely a bit smoother and I can tell a difference now, hearing more familiar source material. Its very tight though, i've definitely got a lot more worries when it comes to audio than this at the moment. From a pro perspective though this could be the new gold.
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
^ I renamed those clips. Check the OP!
@Hades: Yeah, to be honest I was hoping for a bit more of an audible end difference here too. In other cases Nebula has been far and beyond better, but here I would consider the Waves e-Chan pretty much useful. I guess there's a reason it's my workhorse channel strip. One thing I will say though is that they do definitely sound different when you solo the tracks. The plug-in seems very strong around the 2k area and any high boosts seem to really bring it forward... it's a real flat sort of presence, not at all analogue-like. The highs *are* marginally better and more airy on the Nebula version. Check the overheads for this. I boosted 4dB at 10kHz for both, so you should be able to hear a difference.
Over the course of an entire mix I think there's enough there to add up for a benefit, but really if you want convenience and something good for workflow, there is no worry with sticking to the Waves SSL. This sort of justifies my heavy use of that plug-in.
I wish I could do another saturation vs ITB shoot-out but that kinda thing takes ages and I CBF.
What we need is for a developer like Softube or whatever to just make a great UI for an SSL strip and cram Nebula under the hood, perhaps with some algorithmic randomizations per-instance to approximate electronic variances between channels. Then use their own algorithmic compressor, which they seem to be good at. The combination of the two would be ace, and the workflow would be much better than the clunky thing Nebula presently is.
@Hades: Yeah, to be honest I was hoping for a bit more of an audible end difference here too. In other cases Nebula has been far and beyond better, but here I would consider the Waves e-Chan pretty much useful. I guess there's a reason it's my workhorse channel strip. One thing I will say though is that they do definitely sound different when you solo the tracks. The plug-in seems very strong around the 2k area and any high boosts seem to really bring it forward... it's a real flat sort of presence, not at all analogue-like. The highs *are* marginally better and more airy on the Nebula version. Check the overheads for this. I boosted 4dB at 10kHz for both, so you should be able to hear a difference.
Over the course of an entire mix I think there's enough there to add up for a benefit, but really if you want convenience and something good for workflow, there is no worry with sticking to the Waves SSL. This sort of justifies my heavy use of that plug-in.
I wish I could do another saturation vs ITB shoot-out but that kinda thing takes ages and I CBF.
What we need is for a developer like Softube or whatever to just make a great UI for an SSL strip and cram Nebula under the hood, perhaps with some algorithmic randomizations per-instance to approximate electronic variances between channels. Then use their own algorithmic compressor, which they seem to be good at. The combination of the two would be ace, and the workflow would be much better than the clunky thing Nebula presently is.
Wild Hades
Clean channels are for pussies
There is actually a plugin called AcquaVox, which is "Powered By Nebula" and I'm hoping to see more stuff like that to come out...
http://www.acustica-audio.com/index...ategory_id=35&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53
The problem is: is buggy as hell on my system (Cubase Studio 4 on an Intel I7 950), after four or five instances it starts to crash the shit out of my DAW... too bad because it seems a cool plugin...
http://www.acustica-audio.com/index...ategory_id=35&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53
The problem is: is buggy as hell on my system (Cubase Studio 4 on an Intel I7 950), after four or five instances it starts to crash the shit out of my DAW... too bad because it seems a cool plugin...
