Mixed Drums For Your Reference
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Mago
Austrian Blech Machine
+1!
Drums sound ace man!
Usually drums are my fav part of your mixes, so this is really cool!
fatalforce
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OneDaySky
Clint
Naturally. Let me get you started... two of my favourite mixed drum sounds ever:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XdcNwqS0E&hd=1[/ame]
Usually trying to get some of that vibe in metal drums - but it can be hard to fit with the quick tempos and multiple layers.
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So When you are talking about using outboard are you using hardware inserts, printing hardware to tracks or mixing on a console?
Curious because I have in the past gone the hardware insert route but didn't feel i was gaining much in the end.
Now I stay in the box, and I don't use master buss compression.
but I have also mixed on a console alot and for me the recall and unpredictability make it impossible.
Curious because I have in the past gone the hardware insert route but didn't feel i was gaining much in the end.
Now I stay in the box, and I don't use master buss compression.
but I have also mixed on a console alot and for me the recall and unpredictability make it impossible.
The outboard was both printed and used for inserts in real time. That's how I double-up and use single compressors on multiple tracks in a project. There's no console - it's all done in Cubase via my converters.
Here's another drum bounce I did for a shoot out earlier: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285689/Forum/Shoot-outs/Bass Compressor Shoot-out/Untruth - Bass 4.mp3
These drums were tracked more ideally, and what you hear is more rawness. The kick and snare are both 50/50 real/sample, and the toms are all natural. The room was also quite large, and the tracking of a high standard. There is bass guitar going over the top in that export, but maybe that helps with additional perspective.
Here's another drum bounce I did for a shoot out earlier: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285689/Forum/Shoot-outs/Bass Compressor Shoot-out/Untruth - Bass 4.mp3
These drums were tracked more ideally, and what you hear is more rawness. The kick and snare are both 50/50 real/sample, and the toms are all natural. The room was also quite large, and the tracking of a high standard. There is bass guitar going over the top in that export, but maybe that helps with additional perspective.
AdamWathan
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Careful with those ride transients when you're editing drums Ermz... 
Sounds great man! Love that reverb.
Sounds great man! Love that reverb.
Yeah... I wasn't the one who edited the drums on that project (though I did have to fix a lot of the worst ones retrospectively )
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C_F_H_13
Protools Guru
Careful with those ride transients when you're editing drums Ermz...
Sounds great man! Love that reverb.
Hahahaha I was tempted to bring that up.
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Yeah... I wasn't the one who edited the drums on that project (though I did have to fix a lot of the worst ones retrospectively
I'd like to take this point in time to point out that I had nothing to do with these.
So what are you doing with the L1? Are you using it to have some more gain on the drums by leaving the output ceiling high and lowering the threshold or are you using it to tame the peaks by lowering both of those controls down?
aramism
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ermz good stuff as usual.
don't mean to steal your thunder but luckily i had this burnt down for the drummer and bass player from 2 years ago and had it on my laptop at home but this is another drum stem which demonstrates a bunch of analog processing. minimal samples (slate for the smack) used on kick and snare is totally natural less slate z4. the toms are mostly samples though. most samples were created from his own kit and a bunch of outboard processing and reverb.
drum stem only: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17606589/DRUM STEM.mp3
bass and drum stem: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17606589/BASS AND DRUM STEM.mp3
don't mean to steal your thunder but luckily i had this burnt down for the drummer and bass player from 2 years ago and had it on my laptop at home but this is another drum stem which demonstrates a bunch of analog processing. minimal samples (slate for the smack) used on kick and snare is totally natural less slate z4. the toms are mostly samples though. most samples were created from his own kit and a bunch of outboard processing and reverb.
drum stem only: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17606589/DRUM STEM.mp3
bass and drum stem: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17606589/BASS AND DRUM STEM.mp3
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Pretty sick man! What mic's were used on the Toms? What room mics were used?
On another note I thought I read somewhere you weren't too happy with the Overstayers?
On another note I thought I read somewhere you weren't too happy with the Overstayers?
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No idea about the mics - the band tracked it themselves to my knowledge.
Still can't decide about the Overstayers. They lack that certain 'wow' factor of many outboard compressors. Very tweakable units though, so I keep them around.
Still can't decide about the Overstayers. They lack that certain 'wow' factor of many outboard compressors. Very tweakable units though, so I keep them around.
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Thanks for this thread Ermz. I always like to hear solo'd out tracks for reference so this is a great thing to have!
Also wow I never realized how many great Records Staub worked on! I just looked up his credits and I didn't even know he worked on half of those. Very cool!
-John
Also wow I never realized how many great Records Staub worked on! I just looked up his credits and I didn't even know he worked on half of those. Very cool!
-John
