Another Revalver clip - plese give fedback

[The Crystal King]

Here is another clip, taking some advice by Brett into consideration. Let me know how it sounds to your ears, and if you have any tips:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=889569&songID=7035570

Again, forgive the basic drums and riff - this is really just a tone test... I'm still trying to get the hang of revalver. I also used some Voxengo plugs for this sound, and some Channel EQ in Logic Pro.

 

[The Crystal King]

By the way, if you hear the sound cutting out, it's because I haven't given Voxengo my money yet... doh!

 

[2000ContourSVT]

You might want to get rid of some of the fizz. It's pretty fizzy sounding. Apply a LoPass filter around 12khz and mess with it to get rid of some of that fizz.

 

[The Crystal King]

Ok, try this one - I've removed some of the unnecessary Voxengo plugs as they were causing more clarity, but also more fizz:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=889569&songID=7035615

I'm still finding it a little fizzy... not sure how to get rid of that problem as all the amps seem to be quite fizzy in revalver?

 

[The Crystal King]

Ok, now I'm after adding a low pass filter also, and I think I got rid of some more fizz... how does this sound:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=889569&songID=7035655

 

[Unavailable]

Still sounds fairly fizzy/digitally. Also try bringing out some more in the low end around 70-100Hz.

 

[The Crystal King]

Thanks for the advice guys, and for taking the time to listen

Yes you are right, I'm just after listening to it again today in work, and still sounds quite fizzy. Strange... last night I thought it sounded really good...

Tonight I will try and EQ each track separately with emphasis on the low end, 70-100hz, and also at 12kz again to see if that will help it.

Seems by trying to make the tracks clearer and more present/trebly, I gave them a lot more fizz!

 

[The Crystal King]

I'm trying to get a sound similar to:
http://www.fireland.tv/audio/Album1-Free/Fireland-MyEternal.mp3
http://www.fireland.tv/audio/Album1-Free/Fireland-ServantsOfTheDark.mp3

 

[BrettT]

Your actually not too far from the tone in those links. A bit more low end and hair more low mids. The tone in those links has a bit of that high end fizziness to it...I don't think the fizz is too bad, especially once the drums sound good and bass gets added.

 

[The Crystal King]

Thanks again Brett...

Ok, I've downloaded the GuitarHack IRs and have had a little mess around with them. I actually should really create the sound from scratch with new amp setings and everything... but, working with the original amps, some new IRs (the Fredman ones are great!) and a little more EQ and some Vexengo, and taking your EQ advice, this is what I came up with:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=889569&songID=7038297

This is much closer to what I wanted... let me know what you think .

 

[SteveFireland]

Hi guys, just spotted this - I can tell you exactly how to get that guitar sound, if it helps! The guitars were Jackson V's and ESP Eclipse's with EMG 81s into a VAmp Pro with the following settings:

Modern Hi Gain
Gain: 2pm
Vol: 1.30pm
Bass: 10am
Mid: 11am
Treble: 2.30pm
Presence: 3pm

Digi EQ3 7-band settings on all the guitar tracks:

HiPass: 24db/oct, 99Hz
LoPass: 18db/oct, 10.3kHz
Peak: 4.9db, 81Hz, Q1
Dip: -3.1db, 1.05kHz, Q2.3
Dip: -8.1db, 3.05kHz, Q2.8

There was a lot of corrective EQ being applied there and we still weren't happy with the sound, but we were too far down the road to go back and redo them all, and we didn't do any DI's. We'll know the next time!

Steve.

 

[GarethSE]

I find the key with revalver is to keep your chain as simple as possible.

BTE TSS in front, barely any drive, tone fairly high (7-9), level around 12 o'clock works well for me.

In revalver, boost the input gain.

then i use voxengo boogex to load whatever impulse im using
you cant really get better than catharsis' fredman impulses

then i high pass around 50hz, low pass at 10khz, shelf boost at 10khz to add back some shimmer without the harshness, surgical cut at 100hz, and a -2db (maybe -3db) cut at 900hz, fairly wide.
after that, if your tone isnt sounding good, you've got it dialled in badly.

 

[mick thompson]

nice track mate, a little too scooped for my taste but its nice enough