anyone here ever. . .

[QuothTheRaven]

Don't be so quick to call yourself a satanist based on the commandments alone. I too believe in (most) of those commandments, but they're just there for Levay to get people on his side. I have taken several World Religion and Occult classes and they all discuss satanism at one point or another. No, the satanic bible doesn't refer to worshipping a satan figure or anything like it, but make no mistake, like ledmag said, it's all just a cover it's all about violently opposing anything christian, hence siding with satan by default. There's my 2 cents

 

[ledmag]

Good 2 cents raven, thats worth 100 bucks what yousaid, not 2 cents hahahaha

good post

 

[ledmag]

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[ledmag]

Welcome to the official website of the Church of Satan. Founded on April 30, 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos which is permeated and motivated by the Dark Force which we call Satan. Over the course of time, Man has called this Force by many names, and it has been reviled by those whose very nature causes them to be separate from this fountainhead of existence. They live in obsessive envy of we who exist by flowing naturally with the dread Prince of Darkness. It is for this reason that individuals who resonate with Satan have always been an alien elite, often outsiders in cultures whose masses pursue solace in an external deity. We Satanists are our own Gods, and we are the explorers of the Left-Hand Path. We do not bow down before the myths and fictions of the desiccated spiritual followers of the Right-Hand Path.

Today, we continue to uphold our legacy by building on the solid foundation created by Anton LaVey, and set forth in his writings, recordings, and videos. Since we were the first organization dedicated to Satan, we have had extensive media coverage and been referred to by several names over the course of the last thirty-three years: The First Church of Satan, The Satanic Church, as well as The Satanic Church of America, yet we maintain the simplest and boldest moniker, embodied in the words Church of Satan.

There are others who would try to mislead you into thinking that they are in some way connected to us, have “evolved” from us, or are in some way taking our place. They are liars. At the time of his death on 29 October, 1997 c.e., Anton LaVey left the Church of Satan under the command of the current High Priestess, Blanche Barton—his consort, mother of his third child, Satan Xerxes Carnacki LaVey, and chief administrative officer of the Church for the past 15 years. Anton LaVey took the preservation of his Church seriously, and thus appointed many individuals to the Priesthood of Mendes to be his Devil’s Advocates, and this Priesthood—along with the Order of the Trapezoid and the Council of Nine—is now working with High Priestess Barton to forward the iconoclastic philosophy synthesized by LaVey. On Walpurgisnacht of XXXVI, High Priestess Barton appointed Peter H. Gilmore as High Priest, and Peggy Nadramia as Grand Mistress of the Temple—Magistra Templi Rex.

This site will serve as a gateway into our philosophy, a resource for further exploration, a celebration of our past achievements, and a forum for ground-breaking new developments by Satanists who move with fury and grace through this current culture of rampant mediocrity.

At left you will find a guide to navigate you through our labyrinth. Herein you will find both wonder and mystery, as well as the bedrock of fact. You might also come across some hidden links—treasures for the diligent.

Please begin with the welcoming statement from our High Priestess, Blanche Barton, which will prime you for your journey into our realm of magic and logic, mystery and wisdom.

Enjoy your time here, and if you find that you are one of our tribe, then it is a simple matter to affiliate and begin your journey with others who share your clarity.

We ask that you read our basic texts before asking questions, and there is much information here as well as directions to the detailed writings which will give you a full account of our philosophy and practices. If you do reach a point of misunderstanding, you may encounter some of our officials on the web, or you may contact our online representative, Magistra Peggy Nadramia at nadramia@panix.com.

Journalists seeking media representation may also contact Magistra Nadramia, and we will consider your project.

The adamantine Gates of Hell are hereby thrown open—boldly stride within, or slink away in fear and ignorance. The choice is yours—let the games begin!

 

[ledmag]

The History of the Use
of the Sigil of Baphomet
in the Church of Satan



There have been many rumors and claims regarding this symbol, and here we recount the truth concerning the Church of Satan’s use of this powerful image.

Prior to the worldwide press given the Church of Satan—and later the publication of The Satanic Bible— the now familiar goat / pentagram / “Leviathan” graphic had not been used as THE symbol for Satanism. Our younger readers may find this hard to believe, but it is a fact.

Look at the literature and imagery predating the founding of the Church of Satan in 1966: Satanism is denoted by inverted crosses or crucifixes and blasphemous parodies of Christian art. There are also images of goats and devils, and demons—along with their sigils from grimoires—all used to represent the “satanic.” However, the complete graphic which we call the “Sigil of Baphomet” only became associated as the foremost symbol of Satanism in the public and media consciousness after the founding of the Church of Satan and Dr. LaVey’s use of it. From its inception, the Church of Satan has been constantly spotlighted in print, film, and television media all over the globe, so this was to be expected.

The word “Baphomet” dates back to records of Templar trials, and there are ongoing discussions concerning its derivation and meaning. However, there is no clear evidence that the SYMBOL which we in the Church of Satan call “Baphomet” is derived similarly; it might be, it might not—the evidence, if any, has not yet been released in ANY public forum.

As far as we now know, the first artwork for an image of a goat face in a five-pointed star appeared in Paul Jagot’s Science Occulte et Magie Pratique (Paris: Editions Drouin, 1924, page #172). As can be seen below, it is figure number 24 and is labeled “the pentagram espressive of subversion.” How the author came by this image is unknown to us. Note as well that the star itself is “open.”



The next printed evolution of this graphic can be found in a 1931 book concerning Freemasonry by Oswald Wirth (Oswald Wirth, La Franc-Maçonnerie Rendue Intelligible à ces Adeptes, Deuxième Partie: “Le Compagnon,” Paris: Derry-Livres, 1931, page #60). The source of the image for this book has not been detailed, to our knowledge.



Note that this is now a pentagram with a goat’s face. It is clearly not the full “Sigil of Baphomet” as defined in The Satanic Bible, nor is the image of the goat and pentagram the same as the artwork appearing in that book. The concept is the same for the central part of the symbol, but the actual art is not. The rendition of the goat face is not the same—it has a rather different “personality.”

The first version of the goat-faced pentagram surrounded by two circles with “Leviathan” written between them appeared in and on the cover of a book by Maurice Bessy: A Pictorial History of Magic and the Supernatural (English first edition 1964, French first edition: Histoire en 1000 Images de la Magie, Editions du Pont Royal, 1961).



The graphic image in the Bessy book (English edition, page 198 under the heading “Satanic Sciences”) has a caption which reads:

“624-625. Pentagrams are the result of obscure numerological speculations. The five-pointed star, for example, seems to be characteristic of the Christian era, while the cross is the symbol (amongst others) of the figure five: four arms and the centre. By a strange coincidence, the Holy Spirit, the United States, and the U.S.S.R. and Islam use the fivepointed star as their emblem. (The opposition of good and evil is indicated through the inverted triangles).”

The above illustration is to the right of this caption.

NOWHERE in this book is #625 referred to as “The Sigil of Baphomet.”

For the actual cover of this hard-bound book, an artist rendered symbol #625, minus the words “Lilith” and “Samael,” and it was printed in white on the black cloth cover. Very striking.



During his years of research into the “Black Arts,” Anton LaVey had come across this book and added it to his collection. So when he chose to metamorphose his magic circle, “The Order of the Trapezoid,” into the Church of Satan, he decided that this particular symbol was the one which most fully embodied the principles which were the bedrock of the first aboveground Satanic church.

The pentagram (pentalpha) comes from the Pythagorean tradition. The goat’s or ram’s head within it refers to the Goat of Mendes, a symbol of the Egyptian Neter Amon, who was called “the hidden one, he who abides in all things, the soul of all phenomena” and is thus the closest Neter to the Dark Force which permeates and motivates all nature. The two concentric circles which contain the word “Leviathan” written in Hebrew (starting at the lowermost point and moving counterclockwise) stem from the traditions of the Ophite (serpent) Jews, and this is the essence of the Dragon of the Abyss, sometimes symbolized as an ouroboros (serpent biting its own tail forming a circle). Thus, in one sigil, we find a confluence of several cultures’ approach to embodying what we call Satan.

It is this cover art which was enlarged and placed above the altar in the ritual chamber (as well as in a lower level altar) in the infamous Black House.

That the original source for this symbol was the Maurice Bessy book was well-known among the members who attended rituals at the Black House during our formative years. The book was constantly being perused by them, and was often used as a prop in photo shoots (minus the dust jacket which did not include this symbol). Anton LaVey never claimed to have designed the Bessy version of this symbol (as falsely stated by some of our detractors).

In its early days, the Church of Satan used the version seen on the cover of the Bessy book on its membership cards and stationery as well as on the medallions which were created both by hand and by professional manufacturers. Indeed, there were many variations, based on the skill of the renderers as well as on the resolution for detail of the means used to create the final product.

While The Satanic Bible was being written, it was decided that a unique version of this symbol must be rendered to be identified exclusively with the Church of Satan. The pentagram was made geometrically precise, the two circles perfect, the Hebrew characters were distorted to make them look more sharply serpentine and “corrupted with time,” while the goat face was redrawn with particular attention paid toward the eyes. The original highly-detailed artwork was first used to create altar plaques which were available only to local Church of Satan members (later, in February of 1970, they were made available to the general membership). This new version was then used on the cover of the groundbreaking LP, The Satanic Mass (©1968), produced by the Church of Satan. In addition to a recorded Satanic Mass, this LP included the “Prologue” and “Books of Satan: Verses I through V” from the then-unreleased book, The Satanic Bible. The album’s cover design was credited to “Hugo Zorilla,” a pseudonym used by Anton LaVey for some of his artwork. The liner notes, attributed to Franklin Kincaid, say that “the Satanic symbol, Baphomet,” was adopted from the Knights Templar. This symbol was finally widely-released to the general public in December of 1969 with the publication of The Satanic Bible, where it adorned the cover and appeared on the interior page introducing the section detailing the Satanic Ritual. And, significantly, here in this book was the very first time that this sigil was referred to as the “symbol of Baphomet” in any publication available to a mass audience. It was this version which the Church of Satan then had made into cloisonné medallions (which were only available to members) and it became the standard logo for all Church of Satan materials. We began calling it more precisely the “Sigil of Baphomet” and so it was named in print in The Satanic Rituals (released in December of 1972). It should be noted that this version is a copyrighted graphic which belongs to the Church of Satan alone. We have the legal right to place the © symbol next to this rendering, should we care to do so.

The Church of Satan did file for (1981) and then received (1983) a trademark which protects the use of the Sigil of Baphomet with the words “Church of Satan.” The Church of Satan therefore has the legal right to place the ® symbol meaning “registered trademark” next to this combination of symbol and words. This trademark also prohibits anyone from using something similar in name and symbol, which could constitute an illegal dilution or blurring of the trademark.

Current trademark laws are now in flux regarding this issue of trademark blurring—the use of marks similar to existing trademarks—but they are moving in the direction of favoring the forbidding of marks that could be considered misleading in any way, shape, or form.

Anton LaVey authorized Hell’s Kitchen Productions, Inc. to produce a Sigil of Baphomet medallion, and so a minor variation of the Church’s official Sigil of Baphomet was created in which the Hebrew characters between the circles were no longer outlines, but filled-in (a minor change). This authorized variation is also used exclusively on the official website and can be seen at the top of this page and throughout this site. This rendering is also protected by copyright laws.

The copyright for the artwork that appears on the cover of the Bessy book belonged to the publisher of that book. Since that book is out of print, the copyright has lapsed, and thus the rights for the text reverted to the author, and the rights for the graphics contained therein would need to be determined—usually they revert to the artist or other source of origin. After passage of enough time, if the estates of the authors/creators do not renew the copyrights, the items in question then enter public domain. Thus, the Bessy rendition (both interior and exterior) is most probably now in the public domain.

The source from which Bessy garnered the interior symbol has not yet been determined (similarly, Wirth’s source is also unknown). If that information arises, we will be delighted to include it (scholars take note!).

So that there can be no misunderstanding: The use of the rendering that appears on and in The Satanic Bible and other Church of Satan materials (which is NOT THE SAME as the Bessy rendition) IS protected by copyright laws—this art is NOT in the public domain, particularly as The Satanic Bible has remained continuously in print since 1969. The renderings of the Sigil of Baphomet used on the Church of Satan site were created by and for the exclusive use of Hell’s Kitchen Productions, Inc. and the Church of Satan and thus their copyright is also quite clear.

Those are the facts.

If anyone wants to legally use our version of the “Sigil of Baphomet,” they may ask for permission, and we have generally been quite liberal in licensing people to use this for various projects and goods—though we generally only allow its use on websites when (and where) they are mentioning the Church of Satan. Otherwise, those wishing to use a public domain version of a goat / pentagram / “Leviathan” symbol must go back to the Bessy book, or if they just want a goat/pentagram, to the Wirth book, or they may take the challenge to draw a fresh one (not simply scan a copyrighted image and make some alterations)—but no one has the right to unauthorized use of the version from The Satanic Bible which, as documented above, also appears in the other materials produced under the aegis of the Church of Satan (our publications, jewelry, audio/video releases, and so on). We trust that this clarifies the pedigree of what we call the “Sigil of Baphomet.”

Magus Peter H. Gilmore

Walpurgisnacht, XXXV A.S.

 

[ledmag]

Affiliation with the Church of Satan

[Chinese, Français]

We were established in 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, who declared the Year One—Anno Satanas, thus opening the floodgates to a revolution designed to smash the hypocrisy and unreason which has reigned for the past 2000 years. We have, since 1966, stood as the most formidable threat to those who would halt progress in the name of spirituality. We are explorers on the untrodden paths of science, human motivation and mystery—all that is most truly occult.

Those who proudly carry our red cards identifying themselves as members have the strength and dedication to implement the tools of Satan, the imagination to confound and confuse, the wisdom to recognize the Unseen in our society, and the passions of a classical Romantic soul.

Regarding contact with non-members

Many people write to the Church of Satan who have read some of our literature but want to further their knowledge through personal contact before they decide to affiliate. It has always been our policy NOT to place non-members in contact with members, as an individual’s membership is held in strictest confidence by the Church of Satan. This does not reflect upon the sincerity of the person making the inquiry, but as realists, we acknowledge that Satanism remains a controversial religion and thus our policy is an important matter of security for our members.

The protection of our members is one of the reasons we gather information through our extensive questionnaire about the people who affiliate and wish Active Membership participation. We attempt to make it reasonably certain that those whom we accept may interact safely and responsibly with our other members. Individuals who have not yet affiliated are an unknown quantity, and realistically, we cannot trust those whom we do not yet know.

However, for non-members who want to interact with other Satanists (those who have placed themselves in public by personal choice), we suggest that you participate in the message board on www.personalsatan.com called Letters to the Devil upon which many people who call themselves Satanists (as well as many Church of Satan members) exchange their thoughts. This board is moderated, so time-wasting posts by Christians and pseudo-Satanic kooks are removed. This forum has general areas open to anyone, as well as “members only” areas which can be accessed once one joins the Church of Satan and presents proof of membership to those who run this board. Membership has its privileges.

A word to the wise: since Satanism is a philosophy which holds individualism as one of its main values, we don’t expect all of our members to agree on everything, or even to “get along” with each other. Thus, you are cautioned that you might find some differences of opinion in these discussions. Satanism, by definition, is a philosophy in which you won’t find “group hugs” as part of the repertoire. Also, since only a very small percentage of our members choose to interact with people online, it would be an error to think that your online experience is necessarily a reflection upon what your personal experience with the Church of Satan might be. That is an Is-To-Be that is in the hands of each individual who chooses to join. The Red Card of membership is just a key—it is up to you to open the door and earn the attention of those already in the organization.

Registered Membership

We don’t solicit memberships; however, if you wish to join us, to show your support or appreciation, you can become a Registered Member. For a one-time registration fee of one hundred dollars in United States currency, you will receive an impressively-embossed crimson card declaring you a member of the Church of Satan. This card is your means for identifying yourself as a genuine member of the Church of Satan to other members. If you expect to meet another member for the first time, be prepared to produce your card. Likewise, you may be expected to produce a scan of your card to certify your membership to other members online.

No further dues will be expected. There are no further obligations. There are no age requirements. See our Satanic Youth communiqué for clarification of this issue. Follow the instructions at the bottom of this page to become a Registered Member.

If you represent yourself as affiliated with the Church of Satan, you are legally required to register with us as a member.

Active Membership

If you wish to take a more active role in the Church of Satan, we require that you become an Active Member. This requires that you are of at least 18 years of age, and that you fill out an Active Membership Application, indicating your more serious interest in our organization. By completing and returning it (by snail-mail—we’ll let you know when e-mail applications will be accepted), you will be included in our E-Bulletin List (the mailing schedule for this is “as needed”) so you can receive announcements pertinent to your affiliation. Your file will also be reviewed for further involvement; we have Grottos/affiliates/Special Interest Groups of all persuasions who are working on many fronts toward the fulfillment of our Satanic destiny. There is no additional charge for a Registered Member to apply for Active Membership. You may even pay for your Registered Membership and include your Application for Active Membership at the same time.

The Grotto System

We have reestablished our system by which individuals in geographic proximity may form an association for ritualization, socialization, and the pursuit of various projects. Each local cabal is called a Grotto, reinforcing the hidden and mysterious aspect of the Church of Satan. Grottos are established by individuals who are granted the status of Grotto Master. When filling out the questionnaire, indicate that you are interested in Grotto activities in your area. If there are, the local Grotto Master will contact you to arrange a meeting to evaluate you for participation. Be aware that it is within the rights of the Grotto Master to deem you unsuitable for participation in his Grotto, even though you are a bona fide member of the Church of Satan. This does not reflect on your membership in the Church of Satan itself, only that particular Grotto. If there are no Grottos presently in your locale, you may apply to be recognized as a Grotto Master, allowing you to helm your own Grotto. Grotto Masters receive an in-depth manual to assist them in their efforts as well as guide them through the difficulties that might be encountered.

Grotto Masters are not de facto spokespersons for the Church of Satan. They are encouraged to represent Satanism in whatever situations may arise, but they do not speak for the Church of Satan unless they are members of the representational hierarchy, which is our Priesthood. Special situations might arise locally in which permission is given for a Grotto Master who has not yet attained the Priesthood to act as a spokesperson for a specific situation.

Only a small percentage of our membership participates in Grotto activities. We do not give out information concerning the location of Grottos to nonmembers. If a local Grotto has a public profile or a web presence, then nonmembers may learn of its existence. Many Grottos choose to remain “underground,” fulfilling the nature of that word. If you are considering affiliation with the Church of Satan solely for the purpose of Grotto activities, we suggest that you reconsider. Affiliation must primarily be a result of philosophical agreement, not the desire for socializing. We are not a huddling flock of sheep in wolves’ clothing.

Understand that if you wish to pursue group activities using the Church of Satan as an identity, you are legally required to be a Registered Member of the Church of Satan.

When you fill out the Active Membership Application, note the question about Grotto Activities and Grotto Master status and answer accordingly. If you ask to be considered for Grotto Master status, we will send you the Grotto Master Application. If you are already an Active Member and wish to apply for Grotto Master status, email us with a scan of your membership card at GMApplication@churchofsatan.com and we’ll forward the application to you.

Agents

An individual who demonstrates a thorough grasp of the philosophy of the Church of Satan, and would like to be a contact for local media or other interested parties, and who is not interested in Grotto Activities, may be chosen to serve as an Agent for the Church of Satan. As your expertise and influence in the real world expands, you will then be considered for recognition to our Priesthood.

When you fill out your application for further involvement, let us know if you would like to be considered to be a qualified contact point in your area or for media representation. You may also include material which demonstrates your qualifications, such as samples of your writing and video tapes (VHS format) of yourself in a public speaking mode.

Priesthood of Mendes

These are the individuals who act as spokespersons for the philosophy of the Church of Satan, which include the titles of Priest/Priestess, Magister/Magistra. Members of the Priesthood make up the Council of Nine, which is the ruling body of the organization, responsible to the High Priest/Priestess. The Order of the Trapezoid consists of the individuals who assist in the administration of the Church of Satan. Members of our Priesthood are people of accomplishment in the real world—they have mastered skills and have won peer recognition, which is how they have attained their position—“as above, so below.” They are movers and shakers who are the core of our movement. They are not required to speak on our behalf and they may choose to keep their affiliation and rank secret, in order to better serve their personal goals, as well as those of our organization. Thus, you may (even as a member), encounter members of our Priesthood and never know it.

Membership in the Priesthood is by invitation only. We watch the progress of qualified members, and grant recognition for achievement. This is meritocracy at work.




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If you have not already done so, we strongly suggest you purchase The Satanic Bible, and study it. It is a diabolical book, the basis for our philosophy. There is currently a great deal of literature available by our founder as well as other Satanic pioneers. See our Sources page for additional information.

Satanism is not for everyone, but if it is for you, we welcome you. We are not a fan club, a pen-pal society, or a lonely hearts group. We are a group of dynamic individuals who stand forth as the ultimate underground alternative—the Alien Elite. We realize what we have, what we are, and what we shall become. Our scope is unlimited, and the extent of your involvement is based upon your own potential. All names and addresses are held in strict confidence and you are under no obligation as a Registered Member, unless you choose to present yourself for further consideration.

For registration: please send us $100 in U.S. funds (in check, money order, bank draught, or International Money Order drawn on a U.S. bank) along with your legal name and complete mailing address, plus the following statement, signed and dated by yourself:

Please enroll me as a Registered Member of The Church of Satan.

Enclosed is $100.00 in US funds.

Send this to: Church of Satan, New York Contact, P.O. Box 499, Radio City Station,
New York, NY 10101-0499 U.S.A.

You may also include your completed Application for Active Membership with this statement and your registration fee, or you may send the application later. If you cannot print this application, include your request that we mail you a copy when you send in the signed and dated statement and registration fee.




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Please note: all memberships are now processed ONLY through our New York office. We are an international organization and that is our central administrative point. There are NO “local branches or contacts” through which one becomes a member. Once your membership is accepted, then you may snail mail a signed letter with a request to be placed in contact with local members who share interest in such contact, or with a Grotto—should there be one in your area. And, of course, you may mark the spot on the Active Membership Application noting these interests.

Because of the very high volume of mail received at the Central Administrative Office, as well as the small staff (which has other projects besides processing memberships), it may take some time for the membership to be processed, and we give 16 weeks as the maximum time. If you haven’t heard back in more than 16 weeks, email us (membership@churchofsatan.com) with the details (your full name, snail mail address [and tell us if there have been any changes], and when you applied), and we’ll look into the situation. We do not track each piece of mail as it arrives, so if you want to be certain that we have received your materials, we suggest you send them with some form of return receipt card, which the post office will return to you, thus confirming to you that we have your mailing.

About the Membership Fee

We must emphasize that you don’t have to join our organization to consider yourself a Satanist, you only need to recognize yourself in The Satanic Bible and live according to the tenets outlined therein. We don’t proselytize, or otherwise campaign for people to join—that is your prerogative. We have supplied this information which explains how you can affiliate if you so choose.

The $100 US lifetime membership registration fee is about the same as the price of a decent pair of shoes in the United States—which certainly won’t last a lifetime. Most Christian churches will charge you a tithe that counts for 10% of your yearly income—membership in them is not free, as so many assume. If you are an individual of limited financial resources who wishes to become a member, we suggest that you put the money aside piecemeal, and join when you have saved it up—we’ll still be here. We don’t expect people to put aside important things in their life in favor of joining our organization—Satanists abhor the idea of sacrifice.

For those who think we ask too much, we suggest that you look to your other possessions and expenses (most people spend far more than this amount on general entertainment). We’ve discovered that most individuals can muster these funds if membership is something they truly desire.

Bear in mind that our church has real people doing work, such as corresponding with individuals, and otherwise helping to run an international organization (postage, paper, computers, email accounts, and so on are not free). Our administrative staff’s time is precious—isn’t yours? Also, we are emphatically not altruists. We’re Satanists, so we expect to be compensated for our time and efforts. The fee could be much more, and we haven’t raised it in many years.

So, our reasoning is quite simple, and we think it is an amazing bargain. If you disagree, then you don’t have to affiliate with us.

Dis-Affiliation

Resignation—It is a simple matter for a member to terminate his affiliation with the Church of Satan. One simply needs to write, sign, and date a letter (hard copy only—e-mail resignation is not accepted), stating “I hereby resign my membership in the Church of Satan.” Send this letter, along with your membership card, to our Central Administrative Office and your file will be officially closed.

Administrative Termination—Memberships may be terminated at the discretion of the ruling body consisting of the High Priest, the High Priestess, and the Council of Nine. Criteria for such action is based upon principles outlined in The Satanic Bible and on the Bunco Sheet, as well as for personal actions on the part of the member which are deemed inconsistent with continued membership by the ruling body.

There will be no refunding of the $100 Registration Fee for either resignation or for administrative termination of membership.

 

[Tee]

(damn, did I like Baphomet! )

 

[ledmag]

WHy thanks you very much TEE.

That is a cool ass looking symbol.

I felt some of these guys needed to have a look at some of this stuff.

you can find this and more at

www.churchofsatan.com

its a pretty funny place to say the least. Its sort of joke in my book hahhaha

 

[Tee]

Originally posted by ledmag
WHy thanks you very much TEE.

That is a cool ass looking symbol.

I thought the band Baphomet, if you got it....

as I'm self-educated in English, I would be more than happy if you explained to me the structure of the first sentence. I'm a little confused here...

 

[ledmag]

Sure,

I said thank you for telling me i did nice work. sorry for the confusion.

I thouht you ment the symbol not the band hahahha. Since i posted about the relation of the symbol to the satanic church that says it has no belief in satan, but uses one of his most
common symbols hahaha


The page that the symbol write up came from has a bunch of pics of lp covers......go check it out if you have time.

and you have done a real good job teaching yourself english. Thats gotta be hard.

 

[Tee]

that dragged me to English. it's the nicest and esiest of all four I'm "dedicated" to as foreign languages... nothing downgrading, it really caresses one's ears...

thanks anyway. I'll go to that site when I find time. I'm at work. so, it won't be today, I guess...

 

[ledmag]

Im getting ready to leave for work. Im waiting for the rain to we got last night to dry out somewhat. Then im off to slave for money.

4 plus your native language hey? Thats cool. I know ENGLISH barly hahahahha it seems by the way i post here.....hahah
I had spanish in high school, too lobg ago to retain much of what i learned on the language. I still know a few words, and i count in spanish hhahaa.

 

[Tee]

Originally posted by ledmag
Im getting ready to leave for work. Im waiting for the rain to we got last night to dry out somewhat. Then im off to slave for money.

4 plus your native language hey? Thats cool. I know ENGLISH barly hahahahha it seems by the way i post here.....hahah
I had spanish in high school, too lobg ago to retain much of what i learned on the language. I still know a few words, and i count in spanish hhahaa.

that was more a joke... Latin is something that I'm totally passively into... but I'm graduate hispanist, yes, sir... the last time I said something in Spanish was 2-3 years ago, now...nothing practically... and German is something that I live off. and I hate it...

 

[ledmag]

uno dos tres quatro sinco sies siete ocho neube dies.

See, i can count in spanish....hhahahahaha

I may have mispelled them, but i can say them hahahah

 

[neal]

yeh i know a little espanol an deutsch. not very much tho. uno dos tres, ein zwei drei!
-neal

 

[Tee]

un-dos-tres-cuatro-cinco-seis-siete-ocho-nueve-diez...



and neal, this is awesome....

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

Originally posted by Tee
and German is something that I live off. and I hate it...

deutsch ist doch eine wundervolle sprache....

 

[neal]

ja! ich bin du papa! yeh ok i really dont know very much german at all. so sue me dummkopf!
-neal

 

[Tee]

whaaat?! I didn't say anything, that was cool...

Originally posted by neal
ja! ich bin du papa

this is like something from a porn movie...

 

[neal]

hah yeh. german porn. thats funny.
-neal