I'm currently amp-less and I need something to practice/gig with... Is anyone here running a laptop+interface+software amp sims live? Or even for practice?
Anyone playing amp sims live?
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Erkan
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Haha, don't know how good it'd sound but imagine using one of all the freeware sims, and imagine it would sound good and everyone came up and asked what gear you used and the answer would be "Freeware plugins bitches!". SMACK, in yo face.
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I actually did that for practice (through a bass rig)
didn't sound thaaaaat bad... Didn't work for me though because I need to switch
between clean and distorted pretty fast...
Wouldn't gig with it though because of reliabilty...
didn't sound thaaaaat bad... Didn't work for me though because I need to switch
between clean and distorted pretty fast...
Wouldn't gig with it though because of reliabilty...
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I think I'll give it a shot this practice, see how it goes... if I have an interface by then
paladin shredder
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i hope your recorded stuff has lots of feedback, to replicate all the feedback you're going to get playing live with that setup
Uhh
An acoustic guitar is a giant resonating chamber
It WILL feedback, quite easily at that, especially if you are applying any kind of distortion ( read: shitload of compression and gain )
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LeSedna
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I would have thought the way Dodo thought. I mean, how the hell can it feedback, because feedback is due to the boucle amp/mike/amp because of strings, with a gain superior to 1. If there is no amp, there is no boucle. The resonating chamber would not create more feedback, not more than it creates a natural feedback to clean playing, because there is no element bringing a "cycle gain superior to 1" if you got me. So, if you Matt are really sure of what you say, where do we miss anything ?
sorry to hijack the thread guys.
To answer it, I would defo prefer using a good amp sim direct to the sound engineer and therefore to the mix rather than miking badly a cab. I'm quite sure most sound engineers are always happy to have clean direct recordings, rather than bleeded raw live ones. I'm sure you can get quite good results. Just be sure to have 2 computers, in case of failure, a laptop running an audio engine is less reliable than a good old ampsim.
To push the thing further, you can imagine coming with a project full of drumagog, to trigg them, and give the engineer kick/snare/toms as clean tracks.
sorry to hijack the thread guys.
To answer it, I would defo prefer using a good amp sim direct to the sound engineer and therefore to the mix rather than miking badly a cab. I'm quite sure most sound engineers are always happy to have clean direct recordings, rather than bleeded raw live ones. I'm sure you can get quite good results. Just be sure to have 2 computers, in case of failure, a laptop running an audio engine is less reliable than a good old ampsim.
To push the thing further, you can imagine coming with a project full of drumagog, to trigg them, and give the engineer kick/snare/toms as clean tracks.
paladin shredder
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yeah, but also consider that a large diaphragm condenser mic has a much larger pickup pattern than a typical live dynamic mic does, meaning it rejects less unwanted sound. now, add a drummer and a bass player and a pa system (not no mention standing waves form the club) to what the mic is going to be pickup, send that signal to be amplified and distorted, and you have just arrived to feedback city!
LeSedna
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fuck no haha
its a cheap POS acoustic, one of the worst playing instruments ive ever had the displeasure of using, but i do love it immensely haha, it's like an old faithful labrador or something.
thats why i miced it up man, otherwise i would have plugged it in.
its a cheap POS acoustic, one of the worst playing instruments ive ever had the displeasure of using, but i do love it immensely haha, it's like an old faithful labrador or something.
thats why i miced it up man, otherwise i would have plugged it in.
This is just about live applications. Feedback is when the vibrations from the speakers are resonating with the object that created the soundwave in the first place. With electric guitars, 99% of the time the strings are resonating with the speakers. With an acoustic guitar, you have the same chance of the strings resonating with the speakers, but also with the body resonating with the speakers. And since the acoustic guitar is MUCH more resonant, it'll be a lot easier for that resonant frequency to feed into the guitar, which'll get picked up by a mic...
An experiment: Take your acoustic guitar, hit the low E string. The high E string will vibrate sympathetically with the low E. Now, have your friend play a low E -- you'll get the same sympathetic vibration. Now plug the mic into a LOUD AS FUCK PA system and you will get a shitload of feedback.
LeSedna
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Yeah okay Parsons I agree, I just didn't got the fact that 1/ it's an acoustic MIKED, and 2/ it's gonna be live, that means not live in a bedroom, but live for gig and therefore, 1+2 combined = table vibrating of course. I was completely out of the context!
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I would be pretty interested to hear how this sounds, direct signals cause much less feedback issues 
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DanLights
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Damn if you do it right maybe it could sound better than a crappy rig miced with a cheap mic with all the bleed and stuff, and definitely would make the sound guy's day. but for that matter, might as well get a POD or Gt-10 or something and plug it straight into the PA, it's the same principle, just depends on what you like best
