Attention All Shredders!

Which do you think is the best for starters and/or sloppy players?

  • Rock Discipline - John Petrucci

    Votes: 26 96.3%
  • Speed Kills 1 - Michael Angelo Batio

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • Speed Kills 2 - Michael Angelo Batio

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Speed Kills 3 - Michael Angelo Batio

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27
I'll agree with everyone else... DEFINITELY get Paul Gilbert's videos. I would highly recommend his Intense Rock Vol 1 and Vol 2 videos... they are fantastic! His Terrifying Guitar Trip video is great too. And they are on DVD now. Highly highly highly recommend over any of the videos you listed in your poll. Petrucci's is good, but it's just the same chromatic shit over and over and over and over. At least with paul gilbert you learn a ton about speed runs, string skipping, sweeping, playing rhythm / solo grooves, etc. Just so you don't get stuck in the same alternate picking speed practice exercises, I would also recommend other videos by Vinnie Moore, Michael Lee Firkins, Michael Fath, Marty Friedman (his Melodic Control dvd is ABSOLUTELY amazing!!!!!), Frank Gambale, and Allan Holdsworth.

Petrucci's video is not just about "same chromatic shit over and over", in fact all the arguments you used for Gilbert make sense on Petrucci as well.

Anyway, don't want to create some polemic about which one is the best, but I think most people here will agree Petrucci's one is far from being your same repetitive shit...

On Marty Friedman's one, I think his videos are for advanced/intermediate lead guitar players because they cover some flavour to your own skill, you know, his patented japanese feeling on phrases, like playing one half-step above or below some bend or destination note. For me, Friedman is not your typical video showing some typical techniques, like Gilbert, Petrucci, Kotzen, etc...

Michael Lee Firkin's video and Holdsworth videos should be considered the same. Like Friedman, these two (fantastic) guitar players have such an original way of playing leads, take Firkins and his crossover picking technique between pick and fingers, hard to get to his technique when you play metal rhythm guitar (read Maamar Huq first request again !), and Holdsworth...not everyone can make his way into this unique playing, and what about his wide stretched legato runs (like, IIRC, some 6 to 14 frets wide hammer-ons).

Anyway, before choosing one and running full into it, Maamar Huq should look at some free (or not ?) excerpts on youtube from each of these guys and he'll see for himself...:)
 
Petrucci's video is not just about "same chromatic shit over and over", in fact all the arguments you used for Gilbert make sense on Petrucci as well.

Anyway, don't want to create some polemic about which one is the best, but I think most people here will agree Petrucci's one is far from being your same repetitive shit...

On Marty Friedman's one, I think his videos are for advanced/intermediate lead guitar players because they cover some flavour to your own skill, you know, his patented japanese feeling on phrases, like playing one half-step above or below some bend or destination note. For me, Friedman is not your typical video showing some typical technique, like Gilbert, Petrucci, Kotzen, etc...

Michael Lee Firkin's video and Holdsworth videos should be considered the same, like Friedman, these two (fantastic) guitar players have such an original way of playing leads, take Firkins and his crossover picking technique between pick and fingers, hard to get to his technique when you play metal rhythm guitar (read Maamar Huq first request again !), and Holdsworth...not everyone can run into his unique playing, and what about his wide stretched legato run (like, IIRC, some 6 to 14 frets wide hammer-ons).

Anyway, before choosing one and running full into it, Maamar Huq should look at some free (or not ?)excerpts from youtube from each of these guys and he'll see for himself...:)

I agree... I know I over-exaggerated Petrucci's video ;)

But yes, to each their own. I agree he should take all of the recommendations in this thread, go look them up on youtube, and buy the ones he thinks will be useful.

Oh, and even though it's not an "instructional" video per-se, another video that is a must-have is Jason Becker's "Legendary Guitar of Jason Becker" VHS/DVD [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Legendary-Guitar-Jason-Becker/dp/B000KRNKUK[/ame]
Very inspirational imo
 
Thanks guys!

So the verdict: I'll purchase JP's Rock Discipline, PJ'sTerrifying Guitar Trip, Intense Rock 1 & 2 and go through them all. Would I be over-spending?

Also, what would you guys suggest for Pentatonic stuff apart from Zakk Wylde's "Pentatonic Hardcore"?
 
I'd personally acquire them one at a time or two at most, there is a wealth of material in any of those that can take a while to fully digest. I think they're worth the price, but it's up to you to get the most out of it.