Attn People That Hate Smallville

[Beastkeeper]

not sure about you, sir. but i was once a kid with this giant fucking imagination that would begin glowing and getting rock fucking hard when those saturday mornings kicked in or i hit the toy store.

then i got gay and left it all behind.

then i found...my TAAAAAAAAALISMAAAAAAAAAN

and got awesome and hetero.

Well I'm sorry I missed the whole toy store era.

 

[Netherworld]

Yeah well it's different when you're a kid... I grew out of the whole comic and superhero thing, but some obviously are very serious with it.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

aisle. seriously. work with me.

where's dragon?

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

i remember the first legends of the dark knight arc exploring batman having the spirit of the bat in him. i found it gay. as far as i know, these stories crop up from time to time because of a lazy faggot writer thinking they're all deep and shit.

btw, that knowledge of spiderman and madame webb. holy fucking christ i can't believe marvel fucked around THAT much. and i still think the idea of a black costume is dumb; the symbiote IS the costume. HAS TO BE. i'm tempted to hunt the issues down to check!

again, you can't penalize DC too much for the alt. universes. that was all fifties and sixities shit. balancing poor sales with crazy ideas and alternate characters. they made an attempt to correct it with the first crisis. again at zero hour and yet again at infinite crisis. they're at least trying. marvel is going in the other direction with more more more.


also, you're probably right about that social commentary thing. i know dc has gotten deep at times, but marvel scored big luck with x-men and the natural commentary that tails it.

also, the money issue is explained.

the whole "spirit of the bat" thing was just to explain why Bruce chose to fight crime in a mask instead of becoming a cop

i thought the black costume and the symbiote were seperate, i thought the black costume that wasn't the symbiote was from one of the story arcs where spiderman keeps changing his costume


you're right, DC's alternate realities are a little bit better done than marvel's

i really don't remember DC ever doing social comentary

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

they definitely have. i know there was that whole thing where speedy became a heroin addict and green arrow kicked him out on his ass. i also remember some strong social issues in batman comics. there was a shadow of the bat about (number 11 or 14, somewhere in the first 15). about this old 80's villain with a spider gimmick, written by alan grant. holy MOLY. it was simply beautiful. the kid sprinkles cocaine or something in his cereal thinking it's sugar and his mom's dead with a needle in her vain or something. INTENSE.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

also, i really want to know where you got that spiderman stuff from, with the sister and stuff!

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

explanation, quickie version:

earthquake hits
america questions abandoning it, making it a no man's land
bruce appeals, is rejected
falls to shambles, divided into gangs and is territorial
when batman returns he works to control the gangs and break factions down
slowly batman and the police get significant gain
lex, meanwhile, wants to look good so he gets lexcorp geared up for rebuilding it. there's a bunch of technical stuff. he works illegally.
keep in mind waynecorp is probably in shambles.
wayne exposes lex, but his gesture got america to reopen gotham's doors

thanx

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

also, i really want to know where you got that spiderman stuff from, with the sister and stuff!

okay
do you remember the "sinister six"?
it was 5 guys and a girl, the girl just happened to be Peter Parker's long lost slightly younger sister

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

okay
do you remember the "sinister six"?
it was 5 guys and a girl, the girl just happened to be Peter Parker's long lost slightly younger sister

it's the story arc where it's explained to the readers that Peter's parents were murdered instead of dying in an accident, but i can't remember if it's before or after he finds out he was an invitro-fetilization baby

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

i don't want to be a dick, but i'm calling shenanigans. can you provide a year when this arc took place?

Sinister Six membership


[edit] Original line-up

• Doctor Octopus
• Electro
• Kraven the Hunter
• Mysterio
• The Sandman
• The Vulture

[edit] Second line-up

• Doctor Octopus
• Electro
• The Hobgoblin II
• Mysterio
• The Sandman
• The Vulture

[edit] Third line-up

• Doctor Octopus
• Electro
• Gog
• The Hobgoblin II
• Mysterio
• The Vulture

[edit] Mysterio's Sinister Seven

• Beetle
• Electro
• The Hobgoblin II
• Mysterio
• Scorpia
• Shocker
• The Vulture

[edit] Sandman's Sinister Six

• The Sandman
• The Vulture
• Kraven the Hunter (Alyosha Kravinoff)
• Mysterio (Daniel Berkhart)
• Electro
• Venom (Eddie Brock) - replaced Doctor Octopus, who the others were planning to kill

[edit] Other members

• Gog (An alien Spider-Man originally encountered in the Savage Land).[1]
• Scorpion (Mac Gargan)
• Venom (Eddie Brock)
• Kraven the Hunter (Alyosha Kravinoff)
• Lizard

[edit] The Sinister Twelve

• Green Goblin
• Vulture
• Venom (Mac Gargan)
• Chameleon
• Lizard
• Sandman
• Electro
• Hydro-Man
• Hammerhead
• Shocker
• Tombstone
• Boomerang

[edit] Civil War's Sinister Six

• Doctor Octopus
• Lizard
• Shocker
• Trapster
• Grim Reaper
• Vulture

[edit] Insidious Six

• Doctor Octopus
• Chameleon
• Mysterio
• Scorpion
• Rhino
• Shocker
• Vulture - Replaced Mysterio

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

alright, maybe this is it:

In the "Sinister Six" novel trilogy by Adam-Troy Castro (Gathering of the Sinister Six, Revenge of the Sinister Six, and Secret of the Sinister Six), a man known only as the Gentleman--an internationally known criminal mastermind--was revealed to have been partially responsible for Richard and Mary's deaths. The possibility was also raised that Spider-Man had an older sister: the Gentleman's ward, a young woman called Pity.

i don't know if novels are continuity.

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

they definitely have. i know there was that whole thing where speedy became a heroin addict and green arrow kicked him out on his ass. i also remember some strong social issues in batman comics. there was a shadow of the bat about (number 11 or 14, somewhere in the first 15). about this old 80's villain with a spider gimmick, written by alan grant. holy MOLY. it was simply beautiful. the kid sprinkles cocaine or something in his cereal thinking it's sugar and his mom's dead with a needle in her vain or something. INTENSE.

when Peter first moved in with Harry Osborne (the very first time) Harry was a heavy drug user (original explination for peter doing all of harry's homework, after Comics Code Authority put a ban on drug usage harry became a sober idiot) they did a story arc where spiderman had been awake for about 20 hours (fighting multiple vilians one right after another) when harry passed out (can't remember if it was downers kicking in or uppers wearing off) spiderman came in harry's bedroom and injected himself with a needle full of Harry's upper drug (can't remember if it was cocaine or early apearance of meth) so that he can stay awake and fight crime, if i'm remembering corectly it was this specific story that made the Comics Code Authority ban illegal drug usage) after this ban on illegal drug usage, as a way of kind of giving CCA the finger, Marvel starts having Peter start drinking lots of cups of coffee that's got way more caffiene/way more sugar than "normal" coffee, with the distinct implication that one of Spiderman's superpowers is an ability to ingest amounts of caffiene/sugar that would be lethal to a normal person

 

[Ghost Of Red Dragon]

alright, maybe this is it:

In the "Sinister Six" novel trilogy by Adam-Troy Castro (Gathering of the Sinister Six, Revenge of the Sinister Six, and Secret of the Sinister Six), a man known only as the Gentleman--an internationally known criminal mastermind--was revealed to have been partially responsible for Richard and Mary's deaths. The possibility was also raised that Spider-Man had an older sister: the Gentleman's ward, a young woman called Pity.

i don't know if novels are continuity.

i don't know if the novels are continuity either

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

alright, maybe this is it:

In the "Sinister Six" novel trilogy by Adam-Troy Castro (Gathering of the Sinister Six, Revenge of the Sinister Six, and Secret of the Sinister Six), a man known only as the Gentleman--an internationally known criminal mastermind--was revealed to have been partially responsible for Richard and Mary's deaths. The possibility was also raised that Spider-Man had an older sister: the Gentleman's ward, a young woman called Pity.

i don't know if novels are continuity.

i don't know if the novels are continuity or not, what i'm remembering is Peter's parents being murdered BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT peter is a test-tube baby/clone of Ben Riley and Aunt May not telling peter he had a sister because May believed that the sister had died when peter's parents had died

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

i'm pretty sure it's not continuity.

 

[Ghost of Red Dragon]

i'm pretty sure it's not continuity.

continuity is so coplicated i couldn't tell one way or the other