Blu-Ray or HD-DVD

FUCK THIS SHIT!!! I'll take that God damn $10 walkman over an Ipud any day. Shitty ass gadgets that people feel the need in purchasing so they can have something to discuss over the water cooler.
Well, I'm not sure if that's a fair statement. After all, you wouldn't be caught dead discussing something around a water cooler. Water coolers are clearly frivolous items, designed to keep the white man down. I suspect you'd opt for drinking right from a stream, using your hands (cups = frivolous). :loco:

Zod
 
Went and ordered one of them there coupons fer my telervision. I don't know what I'd do without Antiques Roadshow.
 
I have to admit I agree that this whole HD TV craze is a load of bullshit designed to make people buy new TVs. I truly find it pointless for the average person who mostly watches the news, sitcoms, soap operas and sports. Unless you're watching movies full of special effects and amazing scenery every day, why the fuck would you want this crap?

I personally have better things to do.
 
I don't disagree that it's unfair to make people upgrade. Just another example of how our government does the bidding of corporate America, and how our country is moving towards fascism.

Zod
 
It's the individual's right to go out and piss his/her money away. However in this case, people are being forced to cough up their hard earned money because a bunch of HD (Hardly Different) lovers are going gaga over being able to see the salt in the sweat that drips off the brow of their favorite pro athlete. I'm not a negar, nor am I a spic, so why should I be burdened with paying $70 shekels for a God damn converter which will allow me to watch something that I currently have the luxury of watching without? FRIVOLOUS!!! FRIVOLOUS!!! FRIVOLOUS!!! This country is a God damn fucking shit hole. 800k houses in the ghetto, medium priced cars going for 40k, and now an hd converter for people who just want to watch the God damn news to protect themselves from negar riots and to pick up the 5 day weather forecast.

FUCK THIS SHIT!!! I'll take that God damn $10 walkman over an Ipud any day. Shitty ass gadgets that people feel the need in purchasing so they can have something to discuss over the water cooler.

the whole transition towards HD/Digital TV has been planned for over 10 years ... full digital broadcasts were to start at the end of this decade, so this is in line with what was planned.
I am not sure how ready broadcasters are however, as i am still getting maybe 5% of my chanells in HD
 
Executive: "Let's upgrade everything we send out!!!"
Customer Support: "buy why?
Exec: "because its better"
CS: "how?"
Exec: "It's new"
CS: "Won't they then have to buy new TVs?"
Exec: "Yeah, then my friend Theodore Rapeaslave Felatio will get a raise for promoting the increased production of HDTVs, everyone wins!!!"
CS: "What about the customers?"
Exec: "They don't count anyway, as long as we get their money."
 
I remember discussing this topic somewhere else, maybe even in this thread. Every consumer product is designed to allow room for "upgrade". I recall several of you disagreeing with me. It's all a marketing tool. If you have the money, then fine, blow it. If you don't the taxpayers shouldn't be susidizing it*



*but they always have
 
Warner Bros. picks Blu-ray over HD-DVD
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080105/ap_on_hi_te/dueling_dvd_formats

LOS ANGELES - Warner Bros. Entertainment said Friday it will release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format, becoming the latest studio to reject the rival HD DVD technology and further complicating the high-definition landscape for consumers.

Warner Bros., owned by Time Warner Inc., was the only remaining studio releasing high-definition DVDs in both formats.

It is the fifth studio to back Blu-ray, developed by Sony Corp. Only two support the HD DVD format, developed by Toshiba Corp.

Both formats deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound. But they are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players, which means consumers seeking top-quality playback face a dilemma.

Warner said it decided to go with Blu-ray because consumers have shown a stronger preference for that format than HD DVD.

"The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger," Warner Bros. chairman and Chief Executive Barry Meyer said in a statement.

"We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers and, most importantly, consumers," the statement said.

The company said sales of Blu-ray discs in the U.S. generated $169 million last year, while sales of discs in the HD DVD format totaled $103 million.

About 60 percent of Warner's sales of U.S. high-definition discs were Blu-ray titles and the other 40 percent were HD DVD, said Kevin Tsujihara, president of Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group.

Outside the U.S., the divide was far wider, with Warner's Blu-ray discs outselling titles in HD DVD in Britain and Japan, among other markets, Tsujihara said.

Sales of set-top high-definition disc players in the fourth quarter of 2007 also factored into Warner's decision.

The company saw an acceleration in sales of Blu-ray players at the end of the quarter, particularly in December, Tsujihara said.

"We always viewed set-tops as the most significant indicator" of consumers' format preference, he said.

Still, one alarming trend Warner keyed on was that consumers didn't appear motivated by price reductions on high-definition disc players.

"When we saw that was not impacting sales in the level that it should have, and the consumer research that we did indicated that the consumers were holding back from buying either one of the two formats ... we thought it was the right time to act," Tsujihara said, noting that even sales of standard DVDs were affected because consumers appeared unsure over which format to go with.

"That was kind of the worst of all worlds for us," he said.

There are some differences between the formats. Blu-ray discs can hold more data — 50 gigabytes compared with HD DVD's 30 GB — but the technology's new manufacturing techniques boosted initial costs.

HD DVDs, on the other hand, are essentially DVDs on steroids, meaning movie studios can turn to existing assembly lines to produce them in mass.

Warner Home Video will continue to release new titles in HD DVD until the end of May.

Pali Capital analyst Rich Greenfield said in a Web posting Friday that he expects the HD DVD format to "die a quick death, versus a prolonged format war."

"While we still expect overall consumer spending on DVDs to decline at least 3 percent in 2008, the risk of an even worse 2008 DVD environment has most likely been avoided by Warner's early 2008 decision," Greenfield wrote.

The North American HD DVD Promotional Group Inc., a trade association that promotes the HD DVD format, did not have an immediate comment Friday.

Calls to representatives for Toshiba, Sony and the Blu-ray Disc Association were not immediately returned.

Studios and retailers have been choosing sides in the high-def format war in recent months.

Blu-ray got a big boost in June when Blockbuster Inc. announced it would stock only Blu-ray titles as it expands its high-definition offerings.

Target Inc., the nation's second-largest retailer, decided in July to sell only Blu-ray DVD players.

Among the other major studios that have decided to go with Blu-ray: The Walt Disney Co., Sony Corp.'s Sony Pictures, News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

Viacom's Paramount Pictures, which also owns DreamWorks SKG, dropped its support for Blu-ray and said it would start distributing films exclusively in the HD DVD format.

Universal Pictures, a unit of General Electric, also releases films only in HD DVD.

Time Warner shares slipped 42 cents, or 2.5 percent, to $15.91 Friday.
 
Interesting. The thing that strikes me about all this though, is that consumer spending on any post-theater format plays a role at all. I'm simply amazed that people will go out and buy, at a cost significantly more than at the box-office, movies that they may watch once or twice. With the advent of no-late-fee rental houses, there is simply NO REASON WHATSOEVER to purchase movies.
 
there is simply NO REASON WHATSOEVER to purchase movies.


Agreed. The only 2 movies that I have considered purchasing in the last several years is the last Batman and 300.


Here's my entire DVD Collection (not including music dvds)

The Grapes of Wrath
The Count of Monte Cristo
Pumping Iron
Arrested Development Seasons 1,2,3
Lost Seasons 1 & 2 (Still in package)
 
Hehe, one thing I find funny about this HD craze and this kind of "progress" in general, is that you only notice this great different in picture quality that you pay a lot of money for when you remember how it used to be. After a few weeks with this HD format you're back to square one in terms of appreciation, waiting anxiously for the coming XYZ format that will have X procent higher resolution than the ancient HD. Rinse, wash, repeat
 
Interesting. The thing that strikes me about all this though, is that consumer spending on any post-theater format plays a role at all. I'm simply amazed that people will go out and buy, at a cost significantly more than at the box-office, movies that they may watch once or twice. With the advent of no-late-fee rental houses, there is simply NO REASON WHATSOEVER to purchase movies.

that might be true if you go to the movies alone ... but taking the wife and even one kid ... add concessions into the mix and you're looking at easily a $50 night out.

the $30 dvd all of a sudden makes sense
 
It costs under $20 here for two adults to see a non-matinee movie. I understand what you're saying though. My friends with multiple children will go see some terrible kid's movie and spend >$50................AND THEN they STILL buy the DVD release. It's just dumb. Like buying a really expensive knife.
 
Reading now that Warner have just decided to release exclusively on Blu-Ray, and the fact that there's strong speculation that Apple will be including Blu-Ray drives in their next line of Macbooks and iMacs... I'm gonna go ahead and call it for Blu-Ray.
 
Interesting. The thing that strikes me about all this though, is that consumer spending on any post-theater format plays a role at all. I'm simply amazed that people will go out and buy, at a cost significantly more than at the box-office, movies that they may watch once or twice. With the advent of no-late-fee rental houses, there is simply NO REASON WHATSOEVER to purchase movies.
Couldn't agree more. Why anyone, single or with a family, would opt to buy DVDs, of any format, is beyond me.

After a few weeks with this HD format you're back to square one in terms of appreciation
Do you have HD?

I've had HD now for about five months and I'm constantly blown away by the picture quality. Regardless, following this argument, I should go back to traveling by horseback, since I never stop to appreciate the comforts of my automobile.

Reading now that Warner have just decided to release exclusively on Blu-Ray, and the fact that there's strong speculation that Apple will be including Blu-Ray drives in their next line of Macbooks and iMacs... I'm gonna go ahead and call it for Blu-Ray.
I suspect all aspects of this format war will continue to snowball in Blu-Ray's favor. A lot of the true blockbuster games for the PS3 will release in the first six months of 2008. Along with the drop in price, PS3 sales will continue to fuel Blu's dominance.

Zod
 
I've had HD now for about five months and I'm constantly blown away by the picture quality.

Agreed. The difference is stunning, especially with sports. I don't know about movies because I have neither Blu-Ray nor HD-DVD but channels like HD Theater are just awesome.
 
Do you have HD?

I've had HD now for about five months and I'm constantly blown away by the picture quality. Regardless, following this argument, I should go back to traveling by horseback, since I never stop to appreciate the comforts of my automobile.

Zod
yep, I've been watching HD stuff for a couple months now and it never gets old. We watched goonies on some hd channel on friday and it was fucking cool looking. Been watching football for a while now too, the picture quality is excellent, AND the extra width really makes it 400x better than standard.

Frank
 
so geek site The Digital Bits pretty much confirms that the war is over at this point ...

blu-ray camp already making plans to offer hd-dvd owners incentives to come over to their camp with some discounts ...

read on:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/