Bob Rob Interview - Funny Shit

MKS

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I was reading through one of the magazines at the studio and it was a bunch of producers talking about quantizing and pitch correction. Bob Rock had the nerve to say that St. Anger was poorly received because it didn't include any type of modern studio trickery and many people expect hearing stuff that is over-corrected.

He might have a point about over-correction but that has nothing to do with the piss-poor production on St. Anger.

If I get a chance, I'll try to find the article online.
 
I remember seeing how he looped the drums in that Metallica documentary. If that isn't studio trickery, I don't know what is.
 
I like that disk man......I enjoyed the production....it doesnt bother me at all. It didnt leave my player for like 4 months...listened to it every day..!!!!

I LOVE THE SNARE!!! Fucking gets under your skin....I think thats what they were going for

....I dig it so thats really all the matters... You dont and thats cool too....
 
MKS said:
I was reading through one of the magazines at the studio and it was a bunch of producers talking about quantizing and pitch correction. Bob Rock had the nerve to say that St. Anger was poorly received because it didn't include any type of modern studio trickery and many people expect hearing stuff that is over-corrected.

He might have a point about over-correction but that has nothing to do with the piss-poor production on St. Anger.

If I get a chance, I'll try to find the article online.

Yeah, if they just would have taken the time to autotune that snare....
 
egan. said:
Yeah, if they just would have taken the time to autotune that snare....

Or maybe just go back to using it for its original purpose of being a trash can.

St Anger sucks. No excuses on anything. They spent so much goddamn time trying to work through that thing as a band and it came out as a joke... the nu-metal scene is godly compared to that festering pile of crap.
 
Nebulous said:
I think they had plenty of that......have you watched "some kind of monster"?

Yes I have. Phil Towelie took all their money and got high. Stupid towel.

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It's funny that you guys bring this up because I bought Some Kind Of Monster just two days ago because of the Sam Goody closing sale. Got it for like $15 because they are going out of business (and a Steve Vai Live at the Astoria dvd as well, woohoo). I absolutely hated the production on St. Anger the first time I heard any of it. Then as time progressed, some of the stuff I liked, some of it still bothered me. My boss actually likes the way the drums sound on that album, he explains that "maybe people will see how nasty a drumset really sounds before you start eq'ing and compressing it. I don't think anyone realizes how awful drums really do sound before any processing is applied". I think he has a good point. If you've ever sat there and realized how much we all process drums to make them sound "good"...I mean, the original drums just sound god awful sometimes, lol.

I still think St. Anger drops the ball on Metallica's integrity as far as being a professional production. I mean, 20 years of top-of-the-line studio recordings - and then this. Kill 'Em All wasn't all that great production wise to me (matter of taste, don't flame!), simply by dating constraints (being back in the 80's and all), but it certainly is a favorable choice over St. Anger as far as production is concerned, IMO.

Bob Rock is full of shit. Is it not apparent the *team* of guys working on the St. Anger album replacing kicks here and there to Lars' taste, looping drum beats so he wouldn't have to play them again, and random other little studio magic-tricks? It's painfully obvious that they are going about it just like any other album.

What I thought was great and completely obnoxious from the SKoM dvd was the art auction for Lars Ulrich's collection of like 8 peices or whatever it was. A couple went for over a million, the others went for close to that. I mean....honestly, those paintings are just like the peices of crap in my city's art gallery. Fucking canvas that looks like somebody just flung bottles of paint all over it, selling for tens of thousands of dollars. People are idiots. I think Bob Rock has driven Metallica into the ground. Thats the most basic way of how I look at it. There are a lot of angles to cover, but when it comes down to the bottom line, I think he just screwed them (and their dynasty) up.

~006
 
ha omg, i just went back and listened to a few tracks of this album, it is crap, i thought lars could afford a real snare drum and not have to use a trash can my god its crap. the whole production sounds like shit. man its too bad for metallica, sad to say but i think the days of good metallica are long gone.

Jordan
 
My buddy who is a drummer (and a damn good one at that) loves the snare sound on SA. He likes the "raw, agrressive" sound it has. I, on the other hand, go crazy listening to it. It's like a needle being driven into my head every time I hear that snare being hit. I've gotten to the point where I can tolerate it now at least.
 
meh. I kind of like the song "the unnamed feeling" although if I remember correctly it wasn't an unnamed feeling it was just anger or regret or some normal feeling.

Meh, the black album sounded so amazing, and load and reload weren't bad sounding (I wasn't a huge fan of the music) I just hope that St. Anger was an experiment that they won't do anything more with. I still think Metallica has some good songs in them. Finger(edit)s crossed.
 
I agree on that Mephisto, the part about them having some good songs left in them. I mean, you can kind of tell on the SKoM dvd, some of the random jam stuff was actually good. And if they had better production, the guitar parts would be a bit cooler than they are. This goes back to the old argument that something that is good enough, the production won't matter. However, when it's absolute crap...the production...it does hurt it a lot. Mostly to engineers/people in the "know" when it comes to how things are suppose to sound.

I love the Black album. And I thought Load and ReLoad were really good production wise, some of the songs weren't to my liking, but most were good stuff.

Holy shit, I just realized that the LIVE recording of the S&M concert has loads better production than St. Anger. Sometimes I really do wonder what the hell they were thinking when they were about to send this album out to stores. Like...I wouldn't *ever* let this out of the studio like it is. Bah.

~006
 
Actually, on the retail mix of St. Anger, the snare was Drumagogged with The Metal Folding Chair. The original snare was not "raw" enough, so TMFC samps were used instead... at 8bit/11khz.

I took a gnarly 2 flusher grumper the other day... the sound of my shatner was grammy like compared to the afterbirth of a lesbian finger bang gone wrong that is St. Anger.