Bob Rob Interview - Funny Shit

EtherForBreakfast said:
I took a gnarly 2 flusher grumper the other day... the sound of my shatner was grammy like compared to the afterbirth of a lesbian finger bang gone wrong that is St. Anger.

This is a textbook example of the bizarre prose you'll find in this forum that keeps me inescapably hooked. Ether, this belongs alongside Kazrog's earlier post in the Andy Sneap Forum Hall of Fame. Elvis has left the building.

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i've heard hetfield live many times, and with no pitch correction, he can nail his vocal parts a lot better than he does on that album
 
The last band I was in recorded our full length with Jack Endino (Soundgarden, Nirvana) and it was pretty amusing, because we had been yapping about the St. Anger album. Half of us dig it and the other half not at all, but we were bitching about the snare, and he had not heard the album so we brought it in for him. Anyway, he was pretty amused/tickled by it. I can't speak for him, but he said something to the effect of "Metallica is always trying to reinvent themselves" and he mentioned the production of the Justice album as an example of them diverging from the past. From working with him, I feel like it would be interesting to experience things through his ears for a day, because not only is he is an interesting person but he is also quite the audiophile. Now, while I can't stand the snare at all and or most of the mix on St. Anger, for me, it's mostly that the songs sound so repetitive and non-inspired. Too bad. I hope that the next album's material (produced by Rick Rubin?) will be a lot better.
 
riffmachine said:
St. Anger, for me, it's mostly that the songs sound so repetitive and non-inspired. Too bad. I hope that the next album's material (produced by Rick Rubin?) will be a lot better.

St. Anger.

Drop tune and play every possible combination of 0 3 5 6.
 
lol yea and they kinda stole that idea from slipknot cus their original concept was to play every possible combination of 0 1 2 3 in the lowest possible tuning while 10 other guys bang on garbage cans over it. i went to see metallica/slayer tattoo the earth in like 98 or something and slipknot opened, first time ever hearing them cus i was one of those n00bs that lived in a thrash bubble. anways, 8 years later. . .metallica got inspired by that!?:ill:

i should sue them for sampling that snare from my 8th grade garage band's snare! (we called ourselves HEAVY DOODY then, but u can hear us at www.ourlastwill.com but thats our new project) i know i shouldn't have put up those masters on napster! DOH! i still have that snare and it still sounds good despite tuning not tuning it for 8 years!:yuk:

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Bob Rock is an incredible producer/engineer. Metallica and the Crue aren't his only claims to fame. I quit listening to Metallica after "And Justice...", and I had to force myself to like (now love) that album at the time. What you guys are saying about Bob Rock is the same shit that everyone was saying about Fleming Rasmussen after "And Justice..." came out. Truth is, Bob Rock is a beast in the studio. It's not like he "fucked up" St. Anger. This is the sound that he and the band were going for, like it or not.

You can't blame the band's turmoil and personal issues for what you don't like about this album, either. Many great recordings have been done under duress and conflict - Synchronicity by The Police comes to mind.

This is the band that gave birth to modern metal. Probably even the greatest metal band of all time. After being so influential and copied a million times over, I think that they feel compelled to do something different.
 
metalkingdom said:
Bob Rock is an incredible producer/engineer. Metallica and the Crue aren't his only claims to fame. I quit listening to Metallica after "And Justice...", and I had to force myself to like (now love) that album at the time. What you guys are saying about Bob Rock is the same shit that everyone was saying about Fleming Rasmussen after "And Justice..." came out. Truth is, Bob Rock is a beast in the studio. It's not like he "fucked up" St. Anger. This is the sound that he and the band were going for, like it or not.

You can't blame the band's turmoil and personal issues for what you don't like about this album, either. Many great recordings have been done under duress and conflict - Synchronicity by The Police comes to mind.

This is the band that gave birth to modern metal. Probably even the greatest metal band of all time. After being so influential and copied a million times over, I think that they feel compelled to do something different.

i don't think anyone can deny that bob rock helped metallica make some great sounding albums...but i can't say this is one of them
 
In a recent edition of GW. Hammett sort of lets on that the next album will somewhat be back to norm. Solos, production etc.... They won't ever be able to match what they did thru the 80's and early 90's ever again. That Metallica is long since dead. They still have the potential of putting out a massive "hard rock" album (c'mon, they're fucking metallica!!!!!!).

Jaymz + Kirk = Thunder god
 
metalkingdom said:
This is the band that gave birth to modern metal. Probably even the greatest metal band of all time. After being so influential and copied a million times over, I think that they feel compelled to do something different.

A great idea, when you feel like doing something 'different' is actually somewhat expanding your musical style instead of regressing it. Saying 'we're going back to our roots' and bashing on a few trash cans and ad-libbing some hXc riffs in the studio doesn't qualify as valid change, in my opinion.
 
In all honesty, the biggest problem with St. Anger is a lack of attention to detail all around. Seems like they were just happy to be playing music, period, and that even getting around to that AT ALL required massive psychological effort on the part of the band. They were in a funky headspace for sure. I don't know if they will ever fully recover, either, and I don't really care, given that there are tons of great metal bands out there.
 
I think it was Michael Wagener who mentioned before that when he saw the SKOM Documentary at the movie theater, the rough mixes for SA sounded great. Then he heard the album and thought the rough mixes on the documentary sounded 100 times better than the finished product.
 
metalkingdom said:
Bob Rock is an incredible producer/engineer. Metallica and the Crue aren't his only claims to fame. I quit listening to Metallica after "And Justice...", and I had to force myself to like (now love) that album at the time. What you guys are saying about Bob Rock is the same shit that everyone was saying about Fleming Rasmussen after "And Justice..." came out. Truth is, Bob Rock is a beast in the studio. It's not like he "fucked up" St. Anger. This is the sound that he and the band were going for, like it or not.

You can't blame the band's turmoil and personal issues for what you don't like about this album, either. Many great recordings have been done under duress and conflict - Synchronicity by The Police comes to mind.

This is the band that gave birth to modern metal. Probably even the greatest metal band of all time. After being so influential and copied a million times over, I think that they feel compelled to do something different.
You nailed it on all points....thanks for debunking the hilarious scapegoating that goes on.
 
Aside from a couple random posts here in this forum, I've not heard one good thing said about St. Anger. Ever. Anywhere. I've hardly heard any of the music on the record (save for pretty much just what I heard on SKOM--good movie by the way).

From what I understand, St. Anger is on par with universally accepted disasters like "King Kong Returns" and "Gigli." Just plain bad. I honestly have no desire to hear this album. I'm open-minded about other peoples' art and am always open to hearing a new album but I've never heard such consistently bad reviews for anything.

Mind you, I used to worship Metallica; hell, I spent afternoons with my friends hoo-rodding in front of Newsted's house hoping to catch glimpses of the boyz.

Had to air that out.
 
No... fuck the lovefest for Alternica... evolving is what bands like Samael, Anathema, Soilwork, Tiamat and Amorphis have done.

Metallica just fucked up, dropped the ball, and they all need to exit and get the fuck away from the music scene forever and just leave it at that.

The world never needed Metallica.. Im not gonna kiss their asses for "giving birth" to anything. If they didnt do it, someone else would've... Anthrax, Slayer, Exodus, `deth and the like were certainly around putting boots in peoples' asses just the same. So yeah, great.. they're the ones who were there when the sun and the stars aligned... and yeah, they made some good tunes and helped to fly the flag and put metal albums in the homes of the suburban youth for a decade... but now their time has come and they need to squarely fuck off.

I was PRETTY SURE I remember hearing something along the lines of Bob Rock telling him something along the lines of "i can make you guys millionaires", but, that could be rumor... so, either way.

Give respect where its due and when its earned... put throw it by the wayside when its abused, too. Revlon had a lipstick color dubbed red metallica... note HAD, before the "metal icons" filed suit. $$$$$$$$$ runs the game, I guess.

And dont lie and pretend that none of us would just love the $$$. Fuck, if I could make all the $$$ doing what I love to do, than that's just great... but Im not going to get lost and caught up in the pursuit of -literally- greener pastures in the meantime. There's a million arguments out there why they turned out some shitty records, or why all the lawsuits came, or why their internal turmoil bubbled over... but in the long run.. fuck them, their time in the spotlight is over... and they need to exit (stage right) and just forget it already.

I have Metallica albums, had their t-shirts... so I am/was a fan... I just dont think we owe a fucking thing to them like they led some kinda fucking revolution, cuz that's just as much a buncha ridiculousness as saying they didnt do anything either.

Anyways, enough ranting.. Metallica rocked, and now they're gone... kinda like the Roman empire... cya.
 
WOW!!! Someone get "J" a drink.........STAT!!!!!!!!

Metallica should be given their due as far as i'm concerned. If it werent for them, people wouldn't have found bands like Exodus, Slayer, Anthrax....etc. Myself included. I first heard Metallica in '86. I was hooked, and it opened the door to metal for me. I'm not speaking for anyone else here but in response to J the Tyrant, Metallica is partly the reason we're all here. METAL.

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I don't know about that. I've been into metal for several years now and I've never been a fan of Metallica. They didn't open any doors for me, nor did I ever like any of their music. I personally find it very easy to think of them as unremarkable and see them in what I perceive to be their 'true light' at the moment. My vision isn't clouded by decades of fanboyism and worship from back when they were at their peak.

I think J's post was very rough, but passionate and in a big sense, to the point, so respect. They were just there when the planets aligned and made the most of it.