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Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
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MetalManCPA
Papa Opeth
this one didn't work out too well...but maybe it'll distract you from trying to kill each other...
Sadistik
Let me die in solitude...
well i feel the same way about 'goth culture" as I do about the black metal scene. PEOPLE JUST GO TOO FAR! I mean i go to shows in a band shirt, but some people show up all corpse-painted out...how lame is that? If you're at the show, we get that you are a fan! No need to go overboard!
The goths though, DO piss me off. I mean there were guys I knew in High school who would sit around with their jackets over their heads at lunch just so they wouldn't get any accidental sun. And the whole "I like this band because they represent my horrible teen angst even though they are 30 year old millionaire rockstars but they really speak to me so shut up" thing is just lame. None of these so-called goths even listen to any gothic music. At MOST they may have seen a Sisters of Mercy shirt somewhere in thier older sisters closet before, but thats about it. Its funny though, all these so-called "individuals" (who are more alike than any other group of people I've met) all started dressing normally and became likeable nice, outgoing people once they hit college, as they realize the whole "alienated misanthropic youth" image doesn't go over too well with the hot college girls. Some individuals, huh?
The goths though, DO piss me off. I mean there were guys I knew in High school who would sit around with their jackets over their heads at lunch just so they wouldn't get any accidental sun. And the whole "I like this band because they represent my horrible teen angst even though they are 30 year old millionaire rockstars but they really speak to me so shut up" thing is just lame. None of these so-called goths even listen to any gothic music. At MOST they may have seen a Sisters of Mercy shirt somewhere in thier older sisters closet before, but thats about it. Its funny though, all these so-called "individuals" (who are more alike than any other group of people I've met) all started dressing normally and became likeable nice, outgoing people once they hit college, as they realize the whole "alienated misanthropic youth" image doesn't go over too well with the hot college girls. Some individuals, huh?
SentencedToBurn
Dubbs
Well you said that goth chicks are hot. that might be true and all but i think 70% of them are fat, angst teens who want to "rebel". They listen to staind and linkin park. they dont even listen to any goth music. they are just doing it to look evil and miserable. some of them are cool and very hot but i would say the majority isnt.
And about anjelina jolie, yes she is a good actor. check her out in GIA
that is a damn good movie. (plus she is nude in it!!)
And about anjelina jolie, yes she is a good actor. check her out in GIA
that is a damn good movie. (plus she is nude in it!!)
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
I've yet to meet someone who has surprised me (looked goth and not been an idiot). Goths and anyone else that need to dress a certain way in order to feel like they belong are mindless sheep. But I'm not surprised we don't agree, and let's leave it at that.Originally posted by Saphira
Okay then..
Thats shallow..
no matter what you wear your in a group though, i wear jeans, t-shirt and a jacket, and im in some kind of group there i suppose, and when i wear all black am in some kind of group? so i suppose we're all mindless sheep. anyway as long as your happy who gives a fuck, even if you live a lie, being happy is a good thing, right?
MetalManCPA
Papa Opeth
I think we're putting too much value on clothing and looks. Personally (and probably because I'm a guy), I dont' work too hard at my outward appearance. I buy and wear clothes I like - if they happen to be part of a trend, then I guess I'll be stereotyped as being in with the "in crowd". Always the problem when you make judgements on what you see.
ricochet
ghetto philosopher
I have only seen 'goth' kids at school who wear Hot Topic clothes and try to be unique. There is a group of them who stand near one building and smoke. I only know one girl who goes to my old school that is described as gothic but has intelligence and doesn't dress that way to be different.
Personally, I don't put too much thought into how I dress. I typically wear jeans and a black band t-shirt. I don't try to dress a certain way in order to be labeled as something. I support the music I listen to by wearing the bands' shirts.
I must say that Hot Topic sells some ridiculous clothing. I have never been in one because I avoid going to the mall and hardly leave my house. I have been to the site once or twice looking around to see what it was all about. Those bright green, yellow, pink, etc. pants with 80 pockets that have the strings hanging to the ground are funny as hell. The selection of band merch on their site was also very funny.
Personally, I don't put too much thought into how I dress. I typically wear jeans and a black band t-shirt. I don't try to dress a certain way in order to be labeled as something. I support the music I listen to by wearing the bands' shirts.
I must say that Hot Topic sells some ridiculous clothing. I have never been in one because I avoid going to the mall and hardly leave my house. I have been to the site once or twice looking around to see what it was all about. Those bright green, yellow, pink, etc. pants with 80 pockets that have the strings hanging to the ground are funny as hell. The selection of band merch on their site was also very funny.
Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
Hehehe so you havent seen one yet do you bother to talk before the inicial spectations and prejudgements? you might as well say you havent meet an intelligent black or jew you dumb fucking whore. You are about as discriminating as WHATSTOPMBOX or any other racist that has posted here get lost.
You are even more patetic. Your beauty stereotypes aparently follow the beauty stereotypes of modern superficialism and you spect to see every women like a starving bulimic bitch it is people like you that make me be ashamed of being a man cause it is people like you who ruin the lives of persons that me that embrace all beauty, not just the one promoved by the stupid society rules. And how fucking pretentios and elitist are you? lets see you also judge everyone that puts on goth clothes, you are indeed a typical closeminded metalhead that is more affraid of the people who is more close to your lifestyle than the people who is too far away to be a concern like cowboys or something. You are just as stupid as a racist person and i believe that you might as well hate me because and Mexican and i wouldnt be surprised if you say stupid shit like lets kill jews. Too bad you choose ways to express your elitism and lack of self confidense in something everyone identify's with like goth culture, if you had chosen something like racism you wouldnt had got away with it.
SentencedToBurn
Dubbs
woah there misanthrope, sorry i didnt know guys could get PMS. where the hell do you get off turning this into a racist thing. are goths trying to make their own race here? i think your taking this a very wrong way. i dont even know what your talking about and would like to know why you choose to defend goths so much. I didnt say all were fuckin stupid and posers, but the MAJORITY is. you have no right to call me a fuckin racist just because i put down some goths. for christ sake man think about what you are typing. Why dont we fuckin calm down here? we are dealing with the opinions of goths, not a missile crisis. now calm the fuck down you dumb fuck! I was just expressing my opinions in an orderly fashion
Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
you seem to forget your words when you say not all goths are like that. The fact that everyone here takes a "fuck goths" attitute pisses me off, its too stupid and too elitist to support. And please stop your crap, there is no discussion about goths its just goddamn clothes and you are not describing the mayority of goths you are describing the mayotity of teenagers, like all other teenagers they are insecure and seek to identify with a group of people, much like the metalheads with they hate towards anyone who is close to them, who the fuck do metalheads think they are do they own the rights to look evil or have long hair or wear dark clothing? its plain stupid how you and all metal people overreact to numetal fans and goth people and other shit. Goth is not an issue, is clothing and vampire Larp, and teengares seeking for they personal image, just like cowboys or hardcore kids or skaters or whatever. The issue is so simple i do not see the need to discuss it, i rather see the need to lay down the fact that the childish acusations you all trow at goth as a whole and wild generalizations about people you barely know is way too stupid and hints the same elitism that hints on racist attitudes.
I couldn't have said that better myself.
I know what alot of you are saying though, and how there are different groups of gothics.
Gothics that are only out there trying to be scary; people out there who think they are gothics because they wear a black coat and listen to Marilyn Manson; "I hate the world and the world hates me - I slit my wrists" typical gothic teenage stage, etc etc...
The list is endless, yet all gothics are not complete fuck ups like alot of you are stating.. but obviously, not in those exact words. I hate the way some people meet "the gothic sheep" then claim them all to be like the rest... I fucking hate that.
I'll be with some friends, and they will introduce to me to someone and they will automatically say "Oh, so you like Manson too?".. I get that all the fucking time.. Of course I screw my face up and say no, but the point is a fuck load of people think that gothics are all the same, and they ARE NOT..!
I cannot stress this enough people!
I do not dress gothic to impress anyone, to fit in or what not...
I don't even know what you would call my dress style, but it probably does fall into the catagorey of 'Gothic' because I love medieval clothing such as the beautiful satin and lace dresses, the long silk skirts with the trails, corsets and waspies.. and I do not spend hundreds of dollars in clothing just to be 'cool' or with the 'in crowd'.. I do it because I love it and it's who I am, and I could not be more happier than what I am today.
My point is, is that not all gothics have the same personality, we are not all doing it for the same reason, we do not think the same nor do we feel the same. Alot of gothics are beautiful, intelligent people, and have something important to say.. they are worth listening to. So, do not just open your eyes and complain about the way they look because you do not even know them. Image IS NOT everything.
~Sighs heavily~
SentencedToBurn
Dubbs
calm down motherfuckers. i realize that there are "real" goths too. goths that arent fake and are cool. i said that. im just expressing my feelings towards the ones i usually meet who are FAKE. lets just end this discussion.
Originally posted by Protocol
I said this once already, some 30-40 thousand posts ago:
Titney Spheres - when it comes to music, this chick has great tits.
It's easy to be unique, but hard to be rare.
Dude, you forgot "Britney's Pears" . and yes I agree with you, when it comes to britneys song writing abilities and lyrics, this chick has great tits.
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