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Part 1:
Carcass Revisited.
In the years after first encountering Carcass, Id begun to see them featured somewhat regularly in things like Kerranng (British rock/metal newsstand magazine) and also from time to time on MTV Europes Headbangers Ball TV program. They were being taken quite seriously, and Id become secretly quite proud of them, what with them being a local band and everything.
Just to ice the cake, I think that all the band are vegetarian, -in fact last thing I knew, all but one were actually Vegan, which made some of the titles and subject matter even more ironic to me.
They turned out an album fairly soon after I first worked with them, and followed with another album a year later. By 1991, I had risen to post of chief Engineer at Amazon, coming back full-time, which curtailed my doing any projects at any other studios for a while (and I particularly missed working overseas), but the MAIN reason why I took the post was that it allowed me to relocate the entire facility to a brand new facility in the city center. We were moving all three existing studios and adding a fourth. The house tech and I were doing all of the wiring and installation, Roger Quested had actually done the room layout and acoustic plan for the two main control rooms, and I did the studio areas for the two main rooms and the whole layout and acoustic design for the two smaller rooms upstairs. The studios were going to be H-U-G-E; -The two downstairs control rooms were each 550 square feet, with natural light, and the studio areas were 2,000 square feet (studio 1- SSL) and 2500 square feet (studio 2-Neve V3).
During this period (which spread from 1991 to 1992) I was spending time in both locations, and doing occasional sessions in the old facility in between the inevitable on-site jobs and visits, but nothing too lengthy. It was during this period that the band Once more booked in to record an album. About this time I really was longing to do a proper job for them, having still only done their first track a few years ago... but sadly I really couldnt do it, because of all the other stuff going on, so Keith Hartley (another Keith!) engineered that Album. I think that by then I had a drawing office set up at the new building downtown, and was probably there most of the time, although I do remember that I was up at the old place a few times doing shorter sessions, and when I was there, I always chatted with the band in the games room or whatever, and dropped in to hear how it was going. They always seemed pretty happy for me to drop by, and Id certainly characterize our relationship as particularly friendly by then.
When they finished the 1991 album (Necroticism Descanting the Insalubrious) I remember thinking that it was OK, but I really wished that Id have got to work on it -there was a sort of tonal strength which I really wished for, that the band still hadnt really accomplished. Oh well.
The band line-up on that album was the original three, plus mike Amott, who might not have fully joined the band yet, but was definitely bringing something new to the table. The Producer was the irrepressible Colin Richardson, and I remember that the second engineer was half Dave Buchanan and half Ian Skinnie McFarlane. There was some kind of scheduling reason why they couldnt work with a single assistant for the entire project, but I dont recall the details now. I think that Ian Skinnie started the project off and Dave finished it, -I dont think that Dave particularly enjoyed most rock sessions, but by the end he was definitely enjoying the personalities on that particular session, and found plenty of humor in the music. I made a mental note; -Id never seen Dave truly enjoy that kind of session so much before.
So when the band booked back in for a month to record another album in1993, wed replaced the V3 in studio 2 with a brand new, slightly larger Neve VR60. The studio was pretty well sorted out by then, and so Id gone back to engineering longer projects. I really wanted to do this album. I think that Keith Hartley also had his eye on it, and I hope I didnt make an enemy, but I really wanted to try my hand with a Carcass album.
The rest of the line-up was pretty much unchanged from the preceding album. Mike Amott had by now settled into the band, Colin Richardson was again producing, Dave Buchanan was assisting, the studio had PLENTY of flexibility in terms of sonic options, and if anything in the room wasnt exactly how I wanted it then I only had myself to blame. (Id essentially built the place, after all!)
Day one, and we started setting up. The drums and probably the bass were the things which I think we really wanted to keep from the backing tracks; the guitars we might probably re-do. The drums were set up directly in front of the control room window, a short distance in front of the glass, with the drummers back to the window. That way he was facing outward into the studio area, for clear line-of-sight with the other players.
Talking of line-of-sight, the studio area (studio 2) was laid out quite specifically. The main recording area was quite large. It was about 1,800 square feet (180sq.m)and the ceiling height inside varied from 18~25 feet (5.5m~8m). In addition to the main room, there were three smaller rooms along the far wall, opposite to and facing the control room window. The rooms (from right-to-left) were treated with very different acoustic surfaces; Yorkshire stone in the largest room to the right (which also had a convex curved wall) all wood (Ash) on the walls in the middle room. Both rooms had hard floors (unfinished tile in the stone room, and the wooden room's floor had in fact been reclaimed from the chapel at Walton Prison when it was demolished while we were building the studio, so it already had its own history!) and the third room, all the way to the left was padded, carpeted walls. Each of the three rooms had the lowest eight feet on the front as a glass wall, with a swing-open double door in the glass area. In addition, Wed mounted pairs of PZM microphones high on the walls in each room, and they all normalled to the mic inputs on the console patchbay on channels 49-upwards, so the last bucket of modules on the Neve had listen mics or crash-bang-wallop mics and all you had to do was push up a fader.
The drums were a double-kick kit, and I remember noticing Kens Velcro leg-weights for the first time. Basically, drumming non-stop for several days is one thing, but double-kick drum work at that frantic pace is enough to wear ANYONE out, so Ken uses leg-weights (which are like ankle-bands with slabs of lead in them, attached and removed by means of a Velcro fastening strip) of various weights, and he used to change different weights if we were doing a lot of different tempos. Being able to control the resistance did indeed help with steadying the tempo somewhat. We (Colin, the band and I) talked about kick drums and whether or not to use triggered kicks. We all felt that (while it is an easy way to get consistency in terms of strike velocity, and even just a single half-hit kick will usually make a double-kick blast sound stumbled) we should at least try to use the real kicks. I was particularly wanting to try and keep them real, because I wanted to use room as much ambience as I could get away with, and I didnt want too much of a disconnect between the trigger kick sound and the room ambience.
While fast kick drums in music of that type had already started to sound like clicky typewriter slapping for many bands, we were determined to try and retain as much strength and depth as we possibly could. We tried using click-pads on the kick drum skins, but it really was TOO much. It put so much hard click on the impact that it overwhelmed the note of the drum, and the click was so loud that it mad the kick drum ambience almost as loud-sounding as the snare ambience -all wrong. Mind you, peeling off the click pad and using the beater direct onto the head was not distinct enough, so we tried a couple of different click pads, and eventually settled on an Ampex 2 reel collar, cut down to 2 x 2 square, with the corners chamfered to make it into an octagon, and with the cut edges filed down to round them off, so that there were no sharp edges to cut into the drum head. We liked the sound of this, and I recall there being a small square of toilet paper folded up behind it, sandwiched between the tape collar pad and the drum skin, when it was taped on (with a circle of duct tape of course!)
The kick drums had second kicks in front of them, and the whole kick setup was tented slightly to manage the room ambience volume, but we did like the tone of the drum in the room quite a lot. We noticed that Ampex reel collar plastic tends to split a couple of times a day, so I had Dave Buchanan pre-build a bunch of carcass-ized click pads so that we could swap them quickly, without losing too much magic, if they failed while the band was hot-to-trot. I think Dave also took it upon himself to add the job of replacing the click pads each morning, along with cleaning the heads, checking the tape cal and all the other jobs which he did for me, including making the tea, -usually served with a smile and a terrible joke!
The doors to the stone room were about ¾-fully open and we used the ambience mics in there. All of the drums were recorded using the console mic pres (I was never much of a different preamp for every track sort of guy my motto was usually: if it feels good feel it again!) Kick drum mics were most likely either AKG D12s or possibly Beyer M380s. Snare was an SM57 on top and I think a C414 on the bottom. Rack toms were Sennheiser MD421s; overheads I dont remember, but I was using Bruel & Kjaer 4006 omnis on overheads a lot up to about that time.
The Bass was DId and miked. The cab was in a little freestanding stone dungeon with a super-heavy sealed-door, which we had built from the remaining Yorkshire stone when the studio was first constructed. It was designed to be used for exactly this purpose; basically completely silencing amplifier caps no matter HOW loud they were! the guide guitar cab was in the far left dead isolation room, and run at a moderate volume.
About this time there were some reservations expressed about the guitar tone. I remember that Bill was complaining about the sound being a little scratchy and thin sounding. I wasnt unduly concerned because it was only a guide, but there didnt seem to be any benefit in using a bad guide guitar sound, if a GOOD guide guitar sound could be easily had, (after all, it always helps to be able to refer good sounds one-against-the-other) so we played around for a little bit. I didnt hear the scratchiness so much in front of the amplifier, but I did in the control room. I seem to think now that we tried a second Marshall head possibly Mike Amotts and the sound changed a little, but still Bills brow was furrowed by the guitar sound; -it wasnt the rich, strong thing which hed been hoping for. Little did we know it, but this was a harbinger of some difficulties to come, later on.
Anyhow, we all sensed that there was no real point in getting bogged down over a guitar sound which we had no real intention of keeping, and so we started printing backing tracks. Day two saw the first of the keepers, and after a week or so, we had all the tracks in the can. Bass fixes were done as we went along. Drums were punched where necessary, but this was of course all done to two-inch tape (24-tracks only, although the room had a pair of Studer A827s, none of us wanted to unleash the spare track monster!) so its not as if there was a stupendous amount of assembly used to make the basic takes. I think that Jeff (Walker, bassist) may have done one or two bass tracks from the top just to restore a sense of continuity after some drum punches, but I have the recollection that there wasnt much of that done at all.
A note on tape calibration: It was my habit and custom to slightly under-bias the tracks where I used to record my metalwork mics. My usual layout was kick, kick, snare (two mics combined during recording) then hat, then rack toms, then overheads then ambience. The Overheads and hi-hat mics would be biased to about a ½dB over-drop at 10kHz at 30ips, and the rest would be biased to 1½dB over-drop. With heavily-smacked cymbals, or any levels which somehow got away from me, I found that there was much less low-end muddy-crunch if I did that. Im completely certain that Dave had standing orders to make sure that calibration practice was followed for this session. The studio had Dolby A and Dolby SR for all of the multitracks, but Im certain that we DIDNT use it. One thing which I am still very happy about on the album is the clarity of the drum metalwork. Not many people notice it, most folks mention the guitar tone, speaking of which
Guitar time.
Oh wow
I dont think I was ready for what happened next, and I fully confess to losing the plot a little.
See, about a year earlier the band had been into studio three upstairs which had been conceived and built as a room for recording demos and small projects. It had an Allen & Heath Saber console in there (one of the early ones) and there was a 1 24-track and a 1 16-track machine, to allow bands to work on a budget, and to also allow people to bring projects in from outside rooms who used semi-pro tape formats. Anyhow, theyd been in working on a couple of demos -with either Keith Harley or Ken Nelson I think- and theyd just thrown a mic on a guitar cab, lobbed the sound onto tape, and been pretty pleased with it. It sounded pretty good in fact, and they all still thought so.
-So now we were faced with getting an impressive guitar sound, because we all agreed the sound of the backing tracks was pretty damned pleasing. I for one was REALLY pleased with how it was sounding, and Colin seemed to be pretty pleased too. Now all of a sudden, the pressure is on, and were worrying about a fizz on the guitar sound. There was this harshness in the tone, and Bill wasnt happy with it. Mike wasnt happy either, and Colin had dialed-in on it, and was now certain that it had to go. The band dug out the tape of the little sixteen-track demo which theyd done, and it sounded better. Im not going to deny it, the guitar sound was better. The drum sound couldnt compete with what we had now, but if we could just get THAT sound with THIS backing track, everyone would be in metal heaven.
So we spent a whole day on it. the cabinet was being miked from RIGHT in the front of the speakers, mic grilles pushed RIGHT into the cloth, so I didnt really think that the room would have much to do with it, but we tried it in the main room, we tried it in the dead room, we tried it in the wood room, we tried it in the dungeon, we tried all of the different speakers in the cabinet, and different combinations, we tried a different cabinet.
Nothing worked.
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Part 1:
Carcass Revisited.
In the years after first encountering Carcass, Id begun to see them featured somewhat regularly in things like Kerranng (British rock/metal newsstand magazine) and also from time to time on MTV Europes Headbangers Ball TV program. They were being taken quite seriously, and Id become secretly quite proud of them, what with them being a local band and everything.
Just to ice the cake, I think that all the band are vegetarian, -in fact last thing I knew, all but one were actually Vegan, which made some of the titles and subject matter even more ironic to me.
They turned out an album fairly soon after I first worked with them, and followed with another album a year later. By 1991, I had risen to post of chief Engineer at Amazon, coming back full-time, which curtailed my doing any projects at any other studios for a while (and I particularly missed working overseas), but the MAIN reason why I took the post was that it allowed me to relocate the entire facility to a brand new facility in the city center. We were moving all three existing studios and adding a fourth. The house tech and I were doing all of the wiring and installation, Roger Quested had actually done the room layout and acoustic plan for the two main control rooms, and I did the studio areas for the two main rooms and the whole layout and acoustic design for the two smaller rooms upstairs. The studios were going to be H-U-G-E; -The two downstairs control rooms were each 550 square feet, with natural light, and the studio areas were 2,000 square feet (studio 1- SSL) and 2500 square feet (studio 2-Neve V3).
During this period (which spread from 1991 to 1992) I was spending time in both locations, and doing occasional sessions in the old facility in between the inevitable on-site jobs and visits, but nothing too lengthy. It was during this period that the band Once more booked in to record an album. About this time I really was longing to do a proper job for them, having still only done their first track a few years ago... but sadly I really couldnt do it, because of all the other stuff going on, so Keith Hartley (another Keith!) engineered that Album. I think that by then I had a drawing office set up at the new building downtown, and was probably there most of the time, although I do remember that I was up at the old place a few times doing shorter sessions, and when I was there, I always chatted with the band in the games room or whatever, and dropped in to hear how it was going. They always seemed pretty happy for me to drop by, and Id certainly characterize our relationship as particularly friendly by then.
When they finished the 1991 album (Necroticism Descanting the Insalubrious) I remember thinking that it was OK, but I really wished that Id have got to work on it -there was a sort of tonal strength which I really wished for, that the band still hadnt really accomplished. Oh well.
The band line-up on that album was the original three, plus mike Amott, who might not have fully joined the band yet, but was definitely bringing something new to the table. The Producer was the irrepressible Colin Richardson, and I remember that the second engineer was half Dave Buchanan and half Ian Skinnie McFarlane. There was some kind of scheduling reason why they couldnt work with a single assistant for the entire project, but I dont recall the details now. I think that Ian Skinnie started the project off and Dave finished it, -I dont think that Dave particularly enjoyed most rock sessions, but by the end he was definitely enjoying the personalities on that particular session, and found plenty of humor in the music. I made a mental note; -Id never seen Dave truly enjoy that kind of session so much before.
So when the band booked back in for a month to record another album in1993, wed replaced the V3 in studio 2 with a brand new, slightly larger Neve VR60. The studio was pretty well sorted out by then, and so Id gone back to engineering longer projects. I really wanted to do this album. I think that Keith Hartley also had his eye on it, and I hope I didnt make an enemy, but I really wanted to try my hand with a Carcass album.
The rest of the line-up was pretty much unchanged from the preceding album. Mike Amott had by now settled into the band, Colin Richardson was again producing, Dave Buchanan was assisting, the studio had PLENTY of flexibility in terms of sonic options, and if anything in the room wasnt exactly how I wanted it then I only had myself to blame. (Id essentially built the place, after all!)
Day one, and we started setting up. The drums and probably the bass were the things which I think we really wanted to keep from the backing tracks; the guitars we might probably re-do. The drums were set up directly in front of the control room window, a short distance in front of the glass, with the drummers back to the window. That way he was facing outward into the studio area, for clear line-of-sight with the other players.
Talking of line-of-sight, the studio area (studio 2) was laid out quite specifically. The main recording area was quite large. It was about 1,800 square feet (180sq.m)and the ceiling height inside varied from 18~25 feet (5.5m~8m). In addition to the main room, there were three smaller rooms along the far wall, opposite to and facing the control room window. The rooms (from right-to-left) were treated with very different acoustic surfaces; Yorkshire stone in the largest room to the right (which also had a convex curved wall) all wood (Ash) on the walls in the middle room. Both rooms had hard floors (unfinished tile in the stone room, and the wooden room's floor had in fact been reclaimed from the chapel at Walton Prison when it was demolished while we were building the studio, so it already had its own history!) and the third room, all the way to the left was padded, carpeted walls. Each of the three rooms had the lowest eight feet on the front as a glass wall, with a swing-open double door in the glass area. In addition, Wed mounted pairs of PZM microphones high on the walls in each room, and they all normalled to the mic inputs on the console patchbay on channels 49-upwards, so the last bucket of modules on the Neve had listen mics or crash-bang-wallop mics and all you had to do was push up a fader.
The drums were a double-kick kit, and I remember noticing Kens Velcro leg-weights for the first time. Basically, drumming non-stop for several days is one thing, but double-kick drum work at that frantic pace is enough to wear ANYONE out, so Ken uses leg-weights (which are like ankle-bands with slabs of lead in them, attached and removed by means of a Velcro fastening strip) of various weights, and he used to change different weights if we were doing a lot of different tempos. Being able to control the resistance did indeed help with steadying the tempo somewhat. We (Colin, the band and I) talked about kick drums and whether or not to use triggered kicks. We all felt that (while it is an easy way to get consistency in terms of strike velocity, and even just a single half-hit kick will usually make a double-kick blast sound stumbled) we should at least try to use the real kicks. I was particularly wanting to try and keep them real, because I wanted to use room as much ambience as I could get away with, and I didnt want too much of a disconnect between the trigger kick sound and the room ambience.
While fast kick drums in music of that type had already started to sound like clicky typewriter slapping for many bands, we were determined to try and retain as much strength and depth as we possibly could. We tried using click-pads on the kick drum skins, but it really was TOO much. It put so much hard click on the impact that it overwhelmed the note of the drum, and the click was so loud that it mad the kick drum ambience almost as loud-sounding as the snare ambience -all wrong. Mind you, peeling off the click pad and using the beater direct onto the head was not distinct enough, so we tried a couple of different click pads, and eventually settled on an Ampex 2 reel collar, cut down to 2 x 2 square, with the corners chamfered to make it into an octagon, and with the cut edges filed down to round them off, so that there were no sharp edges to cut into the drum head. We liked the sound of this, and I recall there being a small square of toilet paper folded up behind it, sandwiched between the tape collar pad and the drum skin, when it was taped on (with a circle of duct tape of course!)
The kick drums had second kicks in front of them, and the whole kick setup was tented slightly to manage the room ambience volume, but we did like the tone of the drum in the room quite a lot. We noticed that Ampex reel collar plastic tends to split a couple of times a day, so I had Dave Buchanan pre-build a bunch of carcass-ized click pads so that we could swap them quickly, without losing too much magic, if they failed while the band was hot-to-trot. I think Dave also took it upon himself to add the job of replacing the click pads each morning, along with cleaning the heads, checking the tape cal and all the other jobs which he did for me, including making the tea, -usually served with a smile and a terrible joke!
The doors to the stone room were about ¾-fully open and we used the ambience mics in there. All of the drums were recorded using the console mic pres (I was never much of a different preamp for every track sort of guy my motto was usually: if it feels good feel it again!) Kick drum mics were most likely either AKG D12s or possibly Beyer M380s. Snare was an SM57 on top and I think a C414 on the bottom. Rack toms were Sennheiser MD421s; overheads I dont remember, but I was using Bruel & Kjaer 4006 omnis on overheads a lot up to about that time.
The Bass was DId and miked. The cab was in a little freestanding stone dungeon with a super-heavy sealed-door, which we had built from the remaining Yorkshire stone when the studio was first constructed. It was designed to be used for exactly this purpose; basically completely silencing amplifier caps no matter HOW loud they were! the guide guitar cab was in the far left dead isolation room, and run at a moderate volume.
About this time there were some reservations expressed about the guitar tone. I remember that Bill was complaining about the sound being a little scratchy and thin sounding. I wasnt unduly concerned because it was only a guide, but there didnt seem to be any benefit in using a bad guide guitar sound, if a GOOD guide guitar sound could be easily had, (after all, it always helps to be able to refer good sounds one-against-the-other) so we played around for a little bit. I didnt hear the scratchiness so much in front of the amplifier, but I did in the control room. I seem to think now that we tried a second Marshall head possibly Mike Amotts and the sound changed a little, but still Bills brow was furrowed by the guitar sound; -it wasnt the rich, strong thing which hed been hoping for. Little did we know it, but this was a harbinger of some difficulties to come, later on.
Anyhow, we all sensed that there was no real point in getting bogged down over a guitar sound which we had no real intention of keeping, and so we started printing backing tracks. Day two saw the first of the keepers, and after a week or so, we had all the tracks in the can. Bass fixes were done as we went along. Drums were punched where necessary, but this was of course all done to two-inch tape (24-tracks only, although the room had a pair of Studer A827s, none of us wanted to unleash the spare track monster!) so its not as if there was a stupendous amount of assembly used to make the basic takes. I think that Jeff (Walker, bassist) may have done one or two bass tracks from the top just to restore a sense of continuity after some drum punches, but I have the recollection that there wasnt much of that done at all.
A note on tape calibration: It was my habit and custom to slightly under-bias the tracks where I used to record my metalwork mics. My usual layout was kick, kick, snare (two mics combined during recording) then hat, then rack toms, then overheads then ambience. The Overheads and hi-hat mics would be biased to about a ½dB over-drop at 10kHz at 30ips, and the rest would be biased to 1½dB over-drop. With heavily-smacked cymbals, or any levels which somehow got away from me, I found that there was much less low-end muddy-crunch if I did that. Im completely certain that Dave had standing orders to make sure that calibration practice was followed for this session. The studio had Dolby A and Dolby SR for all of the multitracks, but Im certain that we DIDNT use it. One thing which I am still very happy about on the album is the clarity of the drum metalwork. Not many people notice it, most folks mention the guitar tone, speaking of which
Guitar time.
Oh wow
I dont think I was ready for what happened next, and I fully confess to losing the plot a little.
See, about a year earlier the band had been into studio three upstairs which had been conceived and built as a room for recording demos and small projects. It had an Allen & Heath Saber console in there (one of the early ones) and there was a 1 24-track and a 1 16-track machine, to allow bands to work on a budget, and to also allow people to bring projects in from outside rooms who used semi-pro tape formats. Anyhow, theyd been in working on a couple of demos -with either Keith Harley or Ken Nelson I think- and theyd just thrown a mic on a guitar cab, lobbed the sound onto tape, and been pretty pleased with it. It sounded pretty good in fact, and they all still thought so.
-So now we were faced with getting an impressive guitar sound, because we all agreed the sound of the backing tracks was pretty damned pleasing. I for one was REALLY pleased with how it was sounding, and Colin seemed to be pretty pleased too. Now all of a sudden, the pressure is on, and were worrying about a fizz on the guitar sound. There was this harshness in the tone, and Bill wasnt happy with it. Mike wasnt happy either, and Colin had dialed-in on it, and was now certain that it had to go. The band dug out the tape of the little sixteen-track demo which theyd done, and it sounded better. Im not going to deny it, the guitar sound was better. The drum sound couldnt compete with what we had now, but if we could just get THAT sound with THIS backing track, everyone would be in metal heaven.
So we spent a whole day on it. the cabinet was being miked from RIGHT in the front of the speakers, mic grilles pushed RIGHT into the cloth, so I didnt really think that the room would have much to do with it, but we tried it in the main room, we tried it in the dead room, we tried it in the wood room, we tried it in the dungeon, we tried all of the different speakers in the cabinet, and different combinations, we tried a different cabinet.
Nothing worked.