Chuck interviews circa 98 (views on MetallicA) and 99 (Control Denied Info)

[Poison God]

Originally posted by General Zod


I'm not sure if you were intentionally trying to twist my words in an attempt to create a straw man argument, or if what we have is a communication breakdown. Regardless, let me reiterate the points I was trying to get across.

1 - I have no problem with a band changing their style (assuming that the change is positive).

2 - I could care less how much a band makes. I never even intimated that.

3 - I have a problem with a band deliberately changing their style, for the sole purpose of making more money, and in the process, selling out their fans (ala Metallica). You would have to be naive to believe that a band like Nevermore is going to sell 5,000,000 CDs without intentionally writing songs geared towards MTV and FM radio. In order to reach the largest audience, you have to cater to the lowest common denominator. A band like Nevermore could not do this, and remain Nevermore. It a similar vein, I agree with Chuck's quote, that Metallica should change their name, because once they sold-out, they ceased to be Metallica.

GZ

Upon your clarification I agree with you GZ. Particularly with #3 above. But, with one caveat: if a band changes (as MetallicA, MegadetH, etc. did) and I still like the music, then I don't really give a damn what the reasons behind the change were. If I hate the new material, then yes, obviously I have issues with why they "turned to the dark side."

 

[numetalsucks]

Ok, this is dumb If you hate metallica so much why do you like to talk about them? Are you a flaming homosexual and want to fuck Kirk Hammett,Lars Ulrich,or James Hetfield? that's what it sounds like, Because all you do is bitch like a child when they take their precious little toy away. You're talking about how immature Metallica fans are but don't look at yourself. And I Agree with that "Trapped" dude. Oh yeah to make this clear, $layer's God Hates this Album sucks Totally, it sounds like Slipknot/Slayer. You say metallica sold out but sounding like slipknot takes the cake. I Also think Reinventing the Steel sucked as Well. Nevermore is talented but guess what JEFF LOOMIS'S 3rd Fav Cd is METALLICA - Ride the Lightning. Another thing the so called "ex diehard fans" of metallica are around the ages of 12-20, at the time Metallica rose to the Metal scene some of you were nothing but Fetuses or not even developed Sperm. So there's no possible way you could have tape traded or anything. Chuck S. is a huge influence on me but I dont take the shit he said about Metallica personally, Hell I liked Kerry King and he talked shit about Dave Mustaine, I don't care ITS A FUCKING OPINION and they don't go on and on about it especially since Metallica hasn't had a full cd of their own music since 97. You're talking about how things are trendy, But look at the Metallica bashing. Everyone in their mother hates metallica, take a survey and you'll see the results. Grow up and get over it. If they died as a Metal band to you then so be it, let the "Dead MEtal Band" rest.

 

[metallica sucks cock]

i thought by "pay out on" he meant pay their salaries, suggesting that a band has to soften in order to make money.


and the amount of money a band makes has nothing to do with whether they sold out or not. if nevermore sold 10 million of copies, and still stayed metal, then thats NOT selling out.

metal bands sometimes think by softening they will sell more records..... but they usually end up losing them.....
like dave mustaine said "we tried to cross over into alternative and pop radio..... but for every fan we gained, we lost 3 or 4 in the process"... at least dave had the balls to admit he sold out.


numetalsucks, i didnt even read your post.......avoid run-on sentences and group the sentences into paragraphs with a main idea in mind.

the reason metallica is so terrible.... not just because the music, but they insulted the fans and the music we love ....
and referring to metal as a "stigma"...their lies, and all that shit.....

i was VERY insulted by metallica's cowardice(backing down from metal in the mid 90s, metals darkest hour) and then lying about their motivations for doing so.....how dumb do they think we are?

"against the grain until the end" my ass!

 

[ledmag]

MSC>>>Your a fucking ZIT, you need to be popped.

 

[RETIREDTrapped]

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