Classic Albums

[zabu of nΩd]

Yeah, dividing by region should produce much more cohesive genres than dividing by time period.

...So do you have anything resembling a first draft for this list?

 

[waif]

no. will do at some point when I have more time. I won't be able to do much, I'm afraid - almost no knowledge of doom metal (I know Pentagram, Candlemass, and Trouble are supposed to kick ass and that's it), the NWOBHM, or obscure death and brutal death. But I can give a rough outline and other people can fill in what they've got.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Yeah, once we've agreed on how the list will be organised, all you really have to do is take people's input and add them to the list.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Right now I'm thinking the groupings would be something along these lines:

Early/Proto-Metal
NWOBHM-era
Heavy/Traditional (post-NWOBHM)
Glam
Thrash
Black (1st Wave)
Black (2nd Wave)
Black (2000s) - not really sure what the cutoff for 2nd Wave is myself
Black (Symphonic)
Death (Traditional)
Death (Brutal/Slam)
Death (Technical)
Power (American)
Power (European)
Progressive
Symphonic/Neoclassical
Folk
Avantgarde/Experimental
Gothic/Dark
Industrial
Melodic Death
Metalcore
Sludge
Stoner
Doom

 

[waif]

Regions are gonna be US, Western Europe, Eastern Europe (germany, poland, etc), England, Scandinavia, as those are the general metal places.

Proto-Metal


Trad Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe


Scandinavia

US

Other

NWOBHM

Thrash Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

German Thrash Metal

Scandinavia

US

LA Thrash Metal

Other

Death Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Swedish Death Metal

Finnish Death Metal

US

Other

OSDM

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Death/thrash

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other



Brutal Death

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Slam Death

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Progressive Death Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Melodic Death Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Grindcore

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Deathgrind

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Goregrind

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Doom Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Trad Doom Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Funeral Doom Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Stoner Doom Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Doom/Death Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Proto-Black Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Black Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Czech Black Metal

French Black Metal

Norwegian Black Metal

Scandinavia

US

Other

Symphonic Black Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Melodic Black Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Folk Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

Viking Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

"Flower" Power Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

True/thrashy Power Metal

Western Europe

Eastern Europe

Scandinavia

US

Other

basic template. probably missing a bunch of subgenres, feel free to add them in. Let's not do stuff like progressive melodic blackened deathgrind - pick the predominant genre and stick it in there.

 

[skeptik]

Certain scenes should merit their own mention, like Swedish Death Metal, Finnish Death Metal, Czech Black Metal, German Thrash Metal, etc.

 

[waif]

Yeah. Let me edit those in.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

This is a good idea. I was thinking of starting a thread about underground metal classics that no one except people on boards like these have even heard of, but are generally considered awesome by people who have heard them.

...But I guess it could fit in this thread... It doesn't have to be famous to be a classic, does it?

I'm not gonna bother listing those I consider to be classic just yet, it'll just be a waste of time before we get some kind of structure on this.

 

[rms]

regions are retarded except for what nec said, uspowermetal shit like that, not bands from random countries that qualify

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Agreed. The scene should be just that; a group of bands who probably all knew each other who were comprising a homogeneous group of bands which played a variegated yet tight knit bunch of styles.

 

[waif]

Eh. I think the styles are relevant because sometimes band from random countries will play in the US power metal style.

We can have both.
Or just the regional scenes. I just feel like that'll leave some bands out. Like Carcass - Heartwork was an important album, but where does it fit in scenewise? British grind? I think not.

 

[The Ozzman]

This thread is going to have a dual purpose when it is complete:

1) Classic albums
2) Shit you should own if you don't already

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

@ WAIF: Nah we shouldn't. Those bands are more of than not un-classic. Since these classics have been established, bands from other areas may be playing stuff previously only heard in one geographical location or scene, but I think that is pretty much where the line is drawn. Very few times do you hear of a band from Florida in the early 90s before death metal was so widespread playing "Swedish style DM".

 

[waif]

This thread is going to have a dual purpose when it is complete:

1) Classic albums
2) Shit you should own if you don't already

Pretty much.

Nah we shouldn't. Those bands are more of than not un-classic. Since these classics have been established, bands from other areas may be playing stuff previously only heard in one geographical location or scene, but I think that is pretty much where the line is drawn. Very few times do you hear of a band from Florida in the early 90s before death metal was so widespread playing "Swedish style DM".

I guess we can just throw them under the general DM category or whatever.

 

[The Ozzman]

Including stuff like US Power Metal and Swedish DM is important because those are where the genre-defining album came from.

No one gives a fuck about Uzbekistani sitar metal, for instance

 

[Zephyrus]

This thread is in vain unless it will yield something we can sticky. That was kind of the point of that "Definition of Metal" thread, but what has become of that?

 

[waif]

Yeah.
Okay. I'll try and put in the scenes under each category, but I probably don't know all the scenes, so help me out.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

If this gets comprehensive enough and with good input I will sticky it in the Rec Thread probably.

 

[waif]

Okay. Organized by subgenre. If you know of any scenes within each genre throw those in, otherwise it goes under general "whatever metal" classics.
If a subgenre is missing go ahead and add it.

Proto-Metal

Trad Metal

NWOBHM

US Trad Metal

Other Trad Metal

Thrash Metal

German Thrash Metal

LA Thrash Metal

Other Thrash

Death Metal

Florida Death Metal

Other US Death Metal

Swedish Death Metal

Finnish Death Metal

Other Death Metal

OSDM

Death/thrash

Brutal Death

Slam Death

Progressive Death Metal

Melodic Death Metal

Gothenburg

Grindcore

Deathgrind

Goregrind

Doom Metal

Trad Doom Metal

Funeral Doom Metal

Stoner Doom Metal

Doom/Death Metal

Proto-Black Metal

Black Metal

Czech Black Metal

French Black Metal

Norwegian Black Metal

USBM

Symphonic Black Metal

Melodic Black Metal

Folk Metal

Viking Metal

"Flower" Power Metal

True/thrashy Power Metal

 

[rms]

youre missing USPM and maybe Finnish Flower Power(wow that sounds fucking gay) maybe for Finland? A few gems from there. Oh and Black/Viking metal(pagan?)