Classic Albums
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Einherjar86
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I answered you. The influence an album leaves on history is a testament to its status as a classic. Both Dream Theater and Stratovarius have such records.
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Einherjar86
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No, popularity doesn't necessarily correspond with influence. For instance, Venom never experienced much commercial success at all; but that didn't stop them from accidentally coining the term "black metal" and being one of the biggest influences on black metal bands ever.
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Perhaps general popularity doesn't matter, but popularity in metal communities such as this one does.
I guess the definition of classic in this context is an album that is respected and/or praised by lots of metalheads.
I guess the definition of classic in this context is an album that is respected and/or praised by lots of metalheads.
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Einherjar86
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Well, then I disagree with whoever said that. Popularity among bands (and a certain number of fans, no doubt) is essential to a "classic" record. It has to have its influence on a certain genre(s) and define the tenets of said genre(s). This doesn't necessarily mean commercial success; maybe the band wasn't popular at the time the record was released, but afterwards it was seen as a classic (as is the case with certain works of literature). Either way, a classic has to have a significant amount of influence. I'm sure whoever said popularity meant commercial success. You're just being picky about the definition of "popular."
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How is an instance or two of bands furthering a musical style which was basically uber underground popularity?
Einherjar86
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I'm ignoring your posts about popularity from now on. We're talking commercial success, and bands do not need commercial success to record classic albums.
YES, you do. Bands like Venom and Mayhem were not great musicians by any means; but that hasn't stopped some of their records from becoming classics in the black (and possibly thrash) metal canons. It's not lame, it's simple fact. You're bailing water from a ship that's sinking too fast to save, just give it a rest.
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challenge_everything
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Obviously influence is a valid criterion for determining a classic album, along with originality, composition, musicianship etc
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I have to say the Ride The Lightning album is still tops, I still have a sore neck from those listening sessions!
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I have to say the Ride The Lightning album is still tops, I still have a sore neck from those listening sessions!
ciao,
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