Clean Vocal Groups?

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back on topic

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Are either of those bands even actual metalcore though? Always personally just considered them part of that whole "American heavy metal" crapfest.

Not sure what you mean by the American heavy metal crapfest. I assume you mean the explosion of emo fag bands of Keith Richards wannabes, and not classic American heavy metal like Manowar, Manilla Road, Cirith Ungol, etc.

 

[CiG]

Obviously I don't mean the latter, Jesus Christ. I mean the tag "American heavy metal" which can be seen on wiki etc.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Obviously I don't mean the latter, Jesus Christ. I mean the tag "American heavy metal" which can be seen on wiki etc.

I know you well enough, so I didn't think so. Never seen that tag on wiki, could you direct me to it?

 

[CiG]

Sure.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadows_Fall

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

So that's an example of what you mean?

 

[CiG]

Yeah, the way bands like that are blandly referred to as heavy metal from America. Whereas Earth Crisis are referred to as metalcore from the get-go.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Crisis

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Yeah, the way bands like that are blandly referred to as heavy metal from America. Whereas Earth Crisis are referred to as metalcore from the get-go.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Crisis

I see, so there's a conflation of them being traditional heavy metal, when they're really just metalcore groups?

 

[CiG]

I wouldn't say traditional no. Just generic pop metal or radio metal. I don't hear the similarities between actual metalcore and bands like Shadows Fall.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I wouldn't say traditional no. Just generic pop metal or radio metal. I don't hear the similarities between actual metalcore and bands like Shadows Fall.

Gotcha, I see your gripe now.

 

[CiG]

What's your opinion though?

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

What's your opinion though?

I do tend to classify metalcore as an offshoot of metal, but I do agree that pop/radio metal shouldn't be confused for metalcore. Though I do see a little bit of overlap with those emo outfits like As I Lay Dying.

 

[arg]

does this sound emo to you? ok the clean vocals are a bit high, but he's not singing about being left by his girlfriend. and Tim the frontman can beat the shit out of you


anyways yeah, bands like earth crisis have more of that bouncy, obnoxious vibe and happy-ish riffs of punk, which i fucking hate

 

[CiG]

That band for a start needs to get someone that knows how to do vocals properly. But no, it doesn't sound emo. I've never really been too fond of throwing that term around anyway.

It does sound absolutely nutless and weak though.

This steamrolls all over that pile of crap:

 

[arg]

I did not hate the tone or the riffs though they were just mid-paced plodding the whole time, wish they would have sped up and flowed better like metal does

Lol the vocals were like he was straining so hard to sound tough yet still came out like a pussy. AILD's growls are fuller and manlier

 

[CiG]

We have very different ideas of quality, that's for sure.

 

[arg]

modern swedish melodic metal that should be right up the op's alley