STEVE NICHOLSON
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Last Metal show I went to was Black Sabbath and Pantera at the Allstate arena about 10 years ago.
Considering selling my copy of HER TEARS DROP
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Larry - I think what happened was that Kisstory came out originally just before the MTV Unplugged show and subsequent reunion, so the books were originally signed by the "Revenge" line up; I guess they just asked Ace and Peter to sign them once they were back on board. I agonized about selling it, really didn't want to.
One thing I would say in general is that Ebay is a better option than trying to sell to specialist record shops / collectors shops, cos you'll get a much fairer price on Ebay. I realise that shops have to make a profit but I got the feeling I was getting stiffed and being offered way less than what some of the stuff I sold was worth. I had quite a bit of fairly rare UK Punk stuff from the late 70s, some of it autographed, and if I hadn't been under pressure to sell stuff quickly (bills to pay!) I'm sure I could have got a much better price on Ebay, so Jasonic if you're not time pressured, I'd say Ebay is the best way to go.
I've worked in a couple of record shops in the past, one of which was the London shop that the store in "High Fidelity" was based on (rumour was you could get fired for being polite to the customers, lol), and they had a list of the rarest / most valuable records (as it stood at that time)up on the wall in one of the branches, and most of the top ten were mis-presses or rare overseas pressings of Elvis, Beatles and Dylan stuff. There's also a cult 60s band called Johns Children, who featured the then-unknown Marc Bolan on guitar, and one of their singles was extremely rare - it had been pressed up but never officially released. It's called "A Midsummer Night's Scene", so if you ever see a copy, grab it quick lol!
I was in a band with the singer of John's Children for a while when I lived in London, and he had some great stories from touring with the Who! Crazy guy too once he got on stage. I played a gig with him at the Marquee club in London and he fell off the lighting rig! He'd climbed up there and wasn't wearing a shirt, so the heat from the lights started to burn his chest. He realised he couldn't climb back down the way he came, so he just let go and fell!
He was out cold for a few minutes, then got up and finished the set! Did an encore, then went to the hospital! I saw him again at a gig last year and he was still up to his old tricks, despite being in his early 60s, lol!
NvmbrsDoom5
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People have to understand that there's a huge difference between selling something on Ebay and being the salesman yourself, compared to selling something to a store who are going to resell it. A store often makes a very small profit when you figure in all of their overhead costs and such. I used to go through hell trying to explain to people why I could only pay them so much for their used items, they just could not grasp the concept. When I sold used cds for a time at my shop (I owned a collectibles shop from 1996-2000), I sold all of my cds for a flat price of $6 each. People would come in and try to sell me their cds and they'd expect to get $5 or $6 a cd?!?! I would try to explain to them that I could not buy them for the same price that I was reselling them, and honestly I would say about 90% would argue with me because they just could NOT grasp this concept. I would usually pay people about half (approx. $3) but even then the amount of actual profit I was gaining was fairly minimal.
Another thing is when people would not understand how I couldn't just jump on their "rare" items and pay them big bucks for them. Sometimes even the rarest items could be a hard sell for me, and I had many great things sitting on my shelves for years that noone would purchase, even though they were particularly rare and hard to find. In the end I wound up letting alot of those things go for much cheaper just so I could move them out before I closed up shop completely. Needless to say a fair amount of money was lost that way. There were many times when people would come in and try to sell me some amazing stuff, but I just had to pass because I knew I couldn't dish out the kind of bucks it was worth, knowing that these "rare" items were gonna sit on my shelves for a long time and probably not sell anytime soon. Most stores need a more rapid stream of steady income coming through the doors in order to keep afloat, so you can kinda understand why it's not uncommon for some dealers to low-ball you when offering to purchase your used items. Because to put it simply, having all of the rarest, coolest items in the world doesn't amount to jack shit if noone is buying them, or can afford to buy them from you.
Of course there's unscrupulous people out there who just want to rip you off too, I know that, unfortunately they don't help matters any.
Anyhow the point is, if you want to make maximum dollar amount from selling your items, you have to take on the responsibility of being the direct seller yourself, and cut out that middle man (hell even eBay is still the middle man, as they take a percentage of profit from you and charge you for listings etc). Otherwise if you're just looking to get rid of items quickly and aren't looking to maximize your dollar amount earned, selling to a dealer or shop is fine. When it comes to selling music items like the ND cassette, I think your best bet is to sell on eBay, mainly because it's the kind of item that you'll have better luck selling if some rabid fan in Turkey happens upon it online one day, for example.
Another thing is when people would not understand how I couldn't just jump on their "rare" items and pay them big bucks for them. Sometimes even the rarest items could be a hard sell for me, and I had many great things sitting on my shelves for years that noone would purchase, even though they were particularly rare and hard to find. In the end I wound up letting alot of those things go for much cheaper just so I could move them out before I closed up shop completely. Needless to say a fair amount of money was lost that way. There were many times when people would come in and try to sell me some amazing stuff, but I just had to pass because I knew I couldn't dish out the kind of bucks it was worth, knowing that these "rare" items were gonna sit on my shelves for a long time and probably not sell anytime soon. Most stores need a more rapid stream of steady income coming through the doors in order to keep afloat, so you can kinda understand why it's not uncommon for some dealers to low-ball you when offering to purchase your used items. Because to put it simply, having all of the rarest, coolest items in the world doesn't amount to jack shit if noone is buying them, or can afford to buy them from you.
Of course there's unscrupulous people out there who just want to rip you off too, I know that, unfortunately they don't help matters any.
Anyhow the point is, if you want to make maximum dollar amount from selling your items, you have to take on the responsibility of being the direct seller yourself, and cut out that middle man (hell even eBay is still the middle man, as they take a percentage of profit from you and charge you for listings etc). Otherwise if you're just looking to get rid of items quickly and aren't looking to maximize your dollar amount earned, selling to a dealer or shop is fine. When it comes to selling music items like the ND cassette, I think your best bet is to sell on eBay, mainly because it's the kind of item that you'll have better luck selling if some rabid fan in Turkey happens upon it online one day, for example.
NvmbrsDoom5
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Side note-- Rich that's pretty cool you played with the singer of John's Children. I have some of their stuff on cds, as I am a pretty big fan of Marc Bolan and everything he ever did. I don't have any rare John's Children stuff but I have some of the old vinyl pressings of those early Tyrannosaurus Rex albums like "Unicorn" and such.
Larry - yeah, I really enjoyed playing with him his name's Andy Ellison, and he's probably best known from a band called Radio Stars with the former bassist from Sparks (Martin Gordon, who played on "This Town Ain't Big Enough..."), which was on the scene at the same time as the whole punk / new wave movement in the UK. They got lumped in with the punk scene mainly cos they played fast, high-energy songs, but they never claimed to be punks. Back in that era, Andy's on-stage exploits were even more crazy than the stuff I saw - he used to jump over the drummer on a mini trampoline, once fell into the orchestra pit then went through the wrong door, ended up outside the venue and had to run past the bouncers to get back into the gig, with them chasing him down the aisle of the venue, and more scarily got shot up in the neck with a syringe full of something nasty by a fan while crowd surfing!
I was keen to play with him cos I thought I could learn a lot from someone who was on the music scene in the 60s in swinging London,lol, and it was a great experience being in his band. He released a cd about 3 years ago called "Cornflake Zoo" which had rare and unreleased solo tracks from 1968 to more recent stuff, and Marc Bolan played guitar on a couple of those songs. Not long before Marc died, he bumped into Andy in the street in London and invited Radio Stars to play on his TV show, which they did. I did a session gig with Martin Gordon from RS too, supporting the original line-up of RS, and his stuff was like Cheap Trick meets Dream Theatre, lol, power pop with prog bits thrown in!
Let the games begin!!!
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Yea, I thought about this once I was already on my way to the club on Saturday.
As cool as autographs would be, I think the rarity of this item makes it certainly valuable enough, right????
Rycher
Oskee Wow Wow!
I love how the title of the ebay listing looks like it reads "Opeth metal."
I've always felt that autographs make anything cooler and more valuable since I enjoy collecting them.
I've always felt that autographs make anything cooler and more valuable since I enjoy collecting them.
Hahaha, yeah, hate to have to put Opeth on there, as us true ND fans get annoyed of the comparisons, but I had to list this from a salesman point of view. Having Opeth in the title will draw people to the listing!
As far as autographs....sure, they are cool.
But to be honest, the ones that I cherish are the ones I received in person.
I dunno...we need to ask Will Bozarth.
He is the autograph expert!!!
As far as autographs....sure, they are cool.
But to be honest, the ones that I cherish are the ones I received in person.
I dunno...we need to ask Will Bozarth.
He is the autograph expert!!!
NvmbrsDoom5
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The autograph thing is hit or miss. For some people, it makes it far more valuable as they feel that it's much rarer and more special with an autograph. For others, they want the item pristine and just as it was when it was new, and think autographs cheapen it, especially if they can't 100% verify that the signature is authentic.
However, you might have wanted to add a bit more description to your listing, to really emphasize just how rare the item is and a bit of history on it. I have always felt that the more description and history you can give to a collectible item, the more intriguing it is for a prospective buyer and also shows that you know something about the items you're selling, which instills confidence. That's just my two cents.
However, you might have wanted to add a bit more description to your listing, to really emphasize just how rare the item is and a bit of history on it. I have always felt that the more description and history you can give to a collectible item, the more intriguing it is for a prospective buyer and also shows that you know something about the items you're selling, which instills confidence. That's just my two cents.
I know I was a bit skimpy on the description.
I suppose I feel this item speaks for itself.
Most underground metal fans know how rare a demo tape is.
Do you guys recall how many of these were pressed?
I suppose I feel this item speaks for itself.
Most underground metal fans know how rare a demo tape is.
Do you guys recall how many of these were pressed?
Exactly.
I was a complete vinyl junkie for MANY years.
I have seen a TON of fake autographs.
I have seen some VERY unique variations on Glen Danzig's autograph!!
I have a signed copy of REFLECTING IN GREY DUSK, but that came direct from the band, so I know it is legit.
Not sure how many fans would want to spend time learning Vito's signature....but you never know! Ha!
Novembers Paul
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Psychonaut
God Of Emptiness
I wouldn't have wanted autographs on it myself. Nothing against the band, of course. I'm kind of a purist that way.
NvmbrsDoom5
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100 tapes were made, and it contains two songs that were later re-released on the updated version of "Amid..." in remastered form.
And one thing I have learned from selling over the years, whether via eBay or in my own store, is that you should NEVER assume people know anything, lol. The more info and details you provide, the more likely you're going to gain people's interest. Always provide as much info as you can, if you have it. That's my motto haha.
And one thing I have learned from selling over the years, whether via eBay or in my own store, is that you should NEVER assume people know anything, lol. The more info and details you provide, the more likely you're going to gain people's interest. Always provide as much info as you can, if you have it. That's my motto haha.
Up to 5 bids! Lots of views.
Should be interesting.
I did add the note about it being limited to only 100!
Now - do I want to part with the LACERATION - RIPPING AVULSION 7"???
Should be interesting.
I did add the note about it being limited to only 100!
Now - do I want to part with the LACERATION - RIPPING AVULSION 7"???
AUCTION ENDS TODAY!!!
Currently up to $50 plus dollars.
Should be interesting to see how the next 3 hours plays out.
Currently up to $50 plus dollars.
Should be interesting to see how the next 3 hours plays out.
