Cover of the new Iced Earth single = pretty awesome
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I kinda hate it when people say: well, don't judge the album based on a song, listen to the amazing trilogies!!
Trilogies consist of 3 songs. Without these 3 songs, TGB and SW would have been awful album. So don't come saying SW is a great album cause of its trilogy... it has a great trilogy but it's a bad album. TGB is even worse.
Trilogies consist of 3 songs. Without these 3 songs, TGB and SW would have been awful album. So don't come saying SW is a great album cause of its trilogy... it has a great trilogy but it's a bad album. TGB is even worse.
EricT
Don't you ever get...
I still dont understand how anyone can "love" IE albums like Days in Purgatory and Horror show, and turn around to absolutely "hating" albums like The Glorious Burden and Something Wicked. It's still very much much Iced Earth even if you think the song writing quality degenerated. Its not like they started doing Abba covers you goddamn harpies.
go figure, the self titled/NotS/BO era provided much darker, stronger materials than we get today. Now it's pretty much generic power metal with no passion behind it. Mind you, I'm one of those who don't like SW a lot but love HS. SW has a heavy song/ballad/heavy song/ballad structure that annoys me to no end while HS has only 1 ballad. Plus, most of the songs on SW have that verse-chorus-verse-chorus pattern while HS provided a bit more originality. Then on TGB the same mistakes done on SW are back and it's even worse.
Iced Earth power metal? Never ever considered them power metal, even TGB. They've always been heavy metal to me, the earlier stuff just had one foot rooted in thrash.
I guess what Im saying though, is that I dont hear this drastic difference that some people like to harp on. Obviously you can hear the change in sound over the years from the S/T to TGB, but still.
I guess what Im saying though, is that I dont hear this drastic difference that some people like to harp on. Obviously you can hear the change in sound over the years from the S/T to TGB, but still.
skeptik
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I don't think there's been much change since Something Wicked, or maybe even the album before. But then again, I don't like any of that. And yes, I have heard them. In fact I've owned everything from Something Wicked to The Glorious Burden, but I sold them all off on eBay last year. Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, the band has been treading water since at least Something Wicked. They've had a decent song here and there, but overall, I'll stick with Iced Earth, Night Of The Stormrider, and Burnt Offerings.
Night of the Stormrider is still my favourite, same goes for Asmodee if I recall. I've enjoyed all of them to one degree or another though.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Keep in mind, he didn't want to rework the trilogy. That was a compromise. The record company wasn't thrilled about releasing a CD, then having Iced Earth return to the studio to record a second CD, without ever touring to support the first disc. If he wanted to take on this massive/expensive project, the record company wanted something to at least put this concept back in people's sight lines.
Zod
yup. Of course, it would be the greatest album of all time with Barlow singing on it, but Greely wasn't a bad singer.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
For me, I think it's less about IE eras and more about Barlow vs Owens.
With regards to recent releases, the irony is such that Barlow turned Horror Show from something 'average' into something great. His vocals on that are some of the finest he's ever recorded IMO.
On the flipside, Owens isn't doing IE many favors. In terms of TGB, he took something 'great' and turned it into something average.*
*not including Gettysburg Trilogy, although now I'm wondering how earth shattering it would have been with Barlow on the mic.
BUT
Let's wait and see how Owens handles the brand new material. "Ten Thousand Strong" is not a bad start.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
So true.
Fixed.
If you believe as I do, that Barlow's vocals had improved with each release, I can only guess it would have been the finest thing the Metal world had produced in the last 15 years.
I don't think Tim will ever escape Barlow's shadow. Ripper has two styles; his natural register and his falsetto. His natural register is quite bland. It's not bad, it's not strong, it just is. His falsetto is amazing. However, as a method of conveying emotion, it's limited. Plus, we've heard Halford do it, just as well (if not better), for the last 30 years.
Even if the "Something Wicked" CDs are the two finest Metal discs ever recorded, when all is said and done, we'll still say, "I wonder how much better they would have been with Barlow."
Zod
