Critiques for a Hardcore/Metal mix?

[STINNETT]

This is a band I recorded a couple weeks ago and I was hoping to get some opinions on the mix. They are basically a hardcore/metal band with some unique sort of craziness about them, you may love it or hate it....I haven't decided yet personally ... Anyway, any criticisms or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=2167

The song is called "Kate Moss Kicks the Habit"

 

[STINNETT]

shameless bump....

hoping there are some ears out there.

 

[Hapexamendios]

I'm no expert, so let's get that out of the way early. It sounds to me like the vocals could be a bit louder. It sounds really good mix-wise...I'm not to keen on the band itself, but the mix isn't bad, dude. Keep it up..

 

[deathtotaliban]

drums and guitars sound tight, drums could be a little louder along with the vocals and i think the vocals have too much reverb, guitars sounds awesome and drums too they just need to be louder

 

[deathtotaliban]

hey the part like a little more than halfway through the song where it like has a sonic boom thing ( a huge bass hit) i dont know how to descibe it can u tell me how the hell you do that i love it and i want it in some of my mixes but i dont know how ot do it thanks a lot!

jordan

 

[STINNETT]

Thanks alot for the listen and the comments guys.
I'll do a little more tweaking on that stuff.

I do that boom with a sound synthesizer called "Stomper"
It's a stand alone program that lets you create a custom sound wave with any kind of frequency/amplitude/decay characteristics. Really cool for those big bass drop things, and best of all it's free!

Here's a link:

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/stomper/index2.html

 

[deathtotaliban]

Awesome dude thanx, ive been looking for this stuff forever. can u tell me your settings to save me some time bc i have a project im working on now that i want to use it for. thanks again man
Jordan

 

[STINNETT]

The settings would be kind of hard to describe, actually. It's a visual interface and you just sort of drag the waveform to the pitch that you want, then draw in a visual representation of the pitch change, amplitude change and decay. When you load up the program you'll see what I mean. It also comes with a bunch of pre drawn shapes to start with.

 

[deathtotaliban]

hey sorry to keep asking so many questions but i cant really find the sound i want, is there anyway you could tell me your frequency and amplitude and waveform numbers, anything i get thats the right frequency always sounds too vibraty. thanks for any help

jordan

 

[Dreathus]

what recording program did you use?

 

[STINNETT]

Sure dude, The frequency on that particular thing started at like D0 and swept down to 0 in a smooth drop. The amplitude started at .95 and swept down to 0. TH total length was about 4.5 seconds. And the waveform shape was the first shape in the list, the one with the smooth curve.

Dreathus, I use Sonar 5 producer edition.

Thanks

Wait, I'll do you one better, here's some screen captures of Stomper with a very similar wave:

 

[deathtotaliban]

awesome dude that helped a lot. so when u put it into the program do u use some sort of compression or limiter so that it smooths it out or what? Thanks again.

Jordan

 

[STINNETT]

I don't compress it or anything, it is a perfectly smooth soundwave...I wouldn't touch it with anything so it will stay clean.
I send it to the master bus where I have a limiter in action. It does make everything else duck down just a little when it hits, but I think it works good that way.