#1. Drug User. It's already a violation of civil rights making drugs illegal. The military doesn't discriminate against alchohol users, and alcohol can and does cause just as many problems as illegal drugs do.
Okay, but I don't give a shit. Too fucking bad man.
#2. Fitness/Age: There are many many many jobs in the military that do not require the ability to run several miles and lift ones own body weight. So why discriminate against obese people or the elderly? Age cannot be helped (just like supposedly sexual orientation can't), so why discriminate against a 60 year old who wants to help as he can?
Because it would be discriminatory
in itself to just give amazing sit-on-your-ass jobs to everyone who was obese and made the kids who were fit coming in to it do all the grunt work that requires fitness. That is why, and why you are dumb and enjoy crying about discrimination despite not taking into account the fact that
maybe these precedents were set to avoid
even worse discrimination. QED.
#3. Intelligence: There are many many many jobs in the military that don't involve the handling of weapons (in fact, most don't).
Yes, because "holding a gun" is the only thing in the military that requires intelligence and know-how. Good call on that one. It was
an example, and I didn't actually think you'd be dumb enough to argue it; I was merely using it as an example of the
mean level of intelligence we should expect from those in our military. What about all those other jobs I just referred to above, also, such as how to do satellite/communications, radar stuff, other shit that involves technical/computational knowledge, etc.? Clearly this requires an intelligent person; possibly even
moreso than someone with good trigger discipline. But you won't listen to my logical, rational arguments, because you enjoy distorting facts and truth to your bizarre, incongruously illogical viewpoints.
#4: Criminal background. You can get in the military with a criminal background, but good luck getting a occupational specialty requiring a security clearance. Why not let bygones be bygones?
I don't claim to know enough about criminal statistics/criminal justice to accurately give you an answer here; for all I know, you might actually have a point, and thus,
*plead the 5th*.
Bottom line, in each case civil rights are being violated.
Civil rights do not mean what you think they mean, apparently, considering I just handily dismissed everything you said except one which I claim to not have enough data/knowledge on to make a clear point that I could stay behind.
Repealing DADT was not on the basis that the policy was hurting the effectiveness of the military, it was repealed because it violated civil rights. Therefore, since civil rights are more important than system effectiveness, why are all of the discriminatory standards not removed? Edit: Hint: All standards are discriminatory by nature.
You are drawing a false dichotomy, one that isn't even actually there, between "system effectiveness" and "civil rights violation". Given that you seem to have no real knowledge of civil rights other than your ridiculously poorly-argued viewpoint that using illegal drugs and then being denied entry into the military program of a country where said drugs are, y'know, illegal, because you did
something fucking illegal and knew it was illegal is bad and somehow infringes upon those rights, I don't really think you are qualified to discuss civil rights.
I don't know why that is so hard to understand. I am not crying about my brother not being a trooper, my point was that there is discrimination everywhere no one cares about (including myself). So why the big fanfare for gays?
Because it is horrifyingly embarrassing that we (up until now) let dark-ages, draconian shit like not allowing perfectly healthy, intelligent, rational people who happen to like other mens' buttholes serve in our military to be perpetrated in a civil society, often claiming to be the best country in the world? I dunno, something about that, probably, and how absolutely stupid as fuck it was. Same reason we made a big fanfare for black people when they got allowed into the military, same reason we made a big fanfare for women when they got allowed into the military.