Does Andy use any verb on his guitars...

[chadsxe]

I can't tell. My guess is not but it might be very subtle. Any guesses?

 

[Black neon bob]

Good call...

I never use verb on my guitars.. but often wonder if i should or not..

 

[gumplunger]

I doubt it, reverb tends to push things back in the mix, so if the guitars are supposed to be all up in your grill, giving them more ambience doesn't make much sense, unless its for transition purposes. I could be wrong though.

 

[Black neon bob]

nah.. i agree.. that's why i keep turning back to guitars without reverb, or just a small subtle hint of reverb.. but nothing fancy..

 

[--TiMmY--]

Quote from andy
"gtr reverb er no!!!!"

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141698&highlight=reverb

 

[Tachy]

Never put reverb in rithm guitars!

 

[kaomao]

if you want to be van halen.. do it....
In metal, reverb on guitars sounds so bad.......

 

[Fragle]

"In metal, reverb on guitars sounds so bad......."
cough cough ride the lightning cough cough

 

[~BURNY~]

On a single tracked/single miced guitar, a subtle touch of early reflections can be helpful to fatten things a bit... Sometimes... Other than that, not a great idea in a metal context.

 

[Matt Crooks]

I always have an overall 'verb for the mix, which gets the drums, gtrs, vox, keys, etc. It just seems to glue the mix together. If I'm using a reverb send that goes from 0-100, the toms would get set to 100, kick and snare to 50, Overheads to 25, Guitars to 10, Vocals to 25. Then I mix the reverb return so that the toms have a nice fat sound to them, but aren't too distant. That seems to give everything some space wihtout washing anything out. For this, I tend to use a plate verb with around 1.5 second reverb time. It's low enough on the guitars that they don't wash out, but it does seem to give them some girth.

 

[kaomao]

"In metal, reverb on guitars sounds so bad......."
cough cough ride the lightning cough cough

I really don't like the tone on Ride the lightning

Maurizio

 

[Andy Sneap]

i love ride the lightning, you gotta remember that was a long time ago now also.

 

[Tachy]

Originally posted by Kaomao
I really don't like the tone on Ride the lightning

But is better than Kill'em all

 

[kaomao]

i love ride the lightning, you gotta remember that was a long time ago now also.

It could have been even 2000 years ago, but the tone is not so great as on MOP that is the best vintage thrashy tone that I ever heard, at that time nobody had a tone so brutal.
Everyone used to play at that time with marshall heads while Mr Hetfield switched from marshall to mesa. that was for sure the very first big fat sound on metal history.
Master of Puppets the best tone so far!

 

[Fragle]

i think RTL is MUCH better than MOP, starting with the production (mop doesn't sound all that great to my ears, better than most 80s stuff though ) all the way to the performance and the songwriting.
the guitars could use a little more *ooomph*, but then again, listen to the first few exodus/testament/slayer records....the only decent one is testament-the new order, that's it...

 

[Nitronium Blood]

Hmm, my Marshall Valvestate 2x12 sounds like better with reverb.

I have never put it in a recording situation though.

 

[Jak3y]

i think RTL is MUCH better than MOP, starting with the production (mop doesn't sound all that great to my ears, better than most 80s stuff though ) all the way to the performance and the songwriting.
the guitars could use a little more *ooomph*, but then again, listen to the first few exodus/testament/slayer records....the only decent one is testament-the new order, that's it...

is it a VS 265???? I have that too

 

[KillDivision]

i love ride the lightning, you gotta remember that was a long time ago now also.

Guitars on RTL really 'bark', are very alive. In that time there was only Exodus who had that kinda guitarsound.
Those bands made me buy a JCM800 and a tubescreamer.

 

[Kenneth R.]

I wouldn't put much reverb on guitars as it kills the clarity of fast/complex/subtle (take your pick) rhythms.

 

[Fragle]

"I wouldn't put much reverb on guitars as it kills the clarity of fast/complex/subtle (take your pick) rhythms."
dead on. that's the very reason why reverb seems to be out of fashion nowadays, with bands like nile or nevermore playing all these insane riffs at high speeds. the old 80s stuff used to be pretty basic (duh!) with enough room for a reverby guitar to breathe so to speak.
i still love the reverb/delay soaked guitar sound for classic stuff such as savatage, whitesnake, anything hair metal basically. i'm also a HUGE fan of reverb heavy snare sounds, i want my snare to sound like it's played in a large empty factoryor something like that. thing whitesnake-is it love.
but once again, that's pretty much unusable for fast thrashy stuff