Drumagog and Triggers

[Mr. Brokenamp]

I was wondering
Has anyone been able to plug triggers directly into the board, record them, then use the blips to trigger drumagog. Or am Iwasting my time and should use my drum brain to get sounds to replace?

 

[GeertSamuel]

Andy does it this way.
It works perfectly! It triggers pretty accurate...I love to trigger with the triggers from pre-amp instead of of the brain..

 

[2012]

That's the only way you'll get Drumagog to trigger properly!

:danceboy:

I kid, I kid!

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Unless for some reason you need the MIDI, you don't need the drum brain here.

 

[deanbailey]

Could someone explain their method in doing this please? I've tried this idea since Andy first mentioned it, and with out the sensitivity setting of a module, each trigger picks up every other drum shell. Like for example the Kick trigger would pick up the snare and toms and vice Versa. I've tried gating but the bleed is just as loud as the main triggered drum shell.
Is there something I'm missing?

EDIT: I'm using the PRO Ddrum not red shot

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Could someone explain their method in doing this please? I've tried this idea since Andy first mentioned it, and with out the sensitivity setting of a module, each trigger picks up every other drum shell. Like for example the Kick trigger would pick up the snare and toms and vice Versa. I've tried gating but the bleed is just as loud as the main triggered drum shell.
Is there something I'm missing?

EDIT: I'm using the PRO Ddrum not red shot

I've got 2nd-tier triggers but they work fine. Your replacement program should have a threshold that will not pick up the other drums...

Also, keep in mind that you will have to alternate your settings and print different sections at a time. It's not just hit record and print the whole track, voila! You also may have to do some editing on faster rolls and cut out everything but the peaks.

Can't speak for anyone else here, but that's how I roll.

 

[joeymusicguy]

Could someone explain their method in doing this please? I've tried this idea since Andy first mentioned it, and with out the sensitivity setting of a module, each trigger picks up every other drum shell. Like for example the Kick trigger would pick up the snare and toms and vice Versa. I've tried gating but the bleed is just as loud as the main triggered drum shell.
Is there something I'm missing?

EDIT: I'm using the PRO Ddrum not red shot

dont have 48v turned on your channel, and make sure your gains for each one is set to unity

make sure you're not clipping, and that should do it

 

[Mr. Brokenamp]

In that case any ideas on setting in drumagog or maybe a screen shot?

 

[deanbailey]

Your replacement program should have a threshold that will not pick up the other drums...

yeah that'd be Drumagog, but the bleed is just as loud so it would trigger everything else too.

dont have 48v turned on your channel, and make sure your gains for each one is set to unity

make sure you're not clipping, and that should do it

they're at unity, but that would just raise the level of everything.

My main problem is the bleed. i have no problem recording it and getting it loud enough to trigger, but it's (to put it simply) getting the kick trigger to not bleed on the snare and toms track.

Does anyone else experience this?

I should just stick to using the module...

 

[Mr. Brokenamp]

OK I got it to work. I must've had a brain fart.

 

[MetalWorks]

While on the subject....

Anyone know if the trigger signal will make it through a 100 foot cable snake?

 

[Mr. Brokenamp]

Dean maybe try using the ducking feature on drumagog?

 

[Gnash]

While on the subject....

Anyone know if the trigger signal will make it through a 100 foot cable snake?

I have my trigs going 20' cable to the wall, around 15' in the wall, and another 10' from the wall to the pre, then a cord from the pre to the input. I have no problems. I use Ddrum pro triggers. They're red, and the same as Andy's. I have no bleed issues with these trigs. Don't use phantom power with em. I think I fucked one up, running 48v to one. I use drumagog, and I have no issues at all. Works perfect!

 

[AudioPhile777]

Ok... I'm covered in noobsauce again...

When using triggers to say, ProTools... I can record straight from the trigger into the daw (of course with some sort of pre in between) onto an audio track?

 

[Gnash]

Oh yeah! That's how to do it.

 

[greyskull]

i give up on triggers now.
now i just keep it natural, and trigger from the mics, but only kick and snare, ( i have more luck with drumagog this way) i hate the sound of triggered toms now.
use the 5 free channels for room mics and other crazy shit