elixir cables

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so...I've got my Countryman Type 85 and Pod Farm Plat :loco:hehe

i have planet waves inst cables and one monster as my (go to cable) for guitars and bass. I have been looking at these videos they have on Youtube comparing the Monster to the Elixir and it's a pretty noticeable difference between the two. I've been "gasing" for the 10 footer..

Have you guys tried the elixir?? should i get one for recording my DI's?
 
High quality instrument cables do have a very noticable difference in sound to cheaper ones, I'd wager 99% of people would prefer the sound of the higher qulaity cable. This is only for instrument cables, and I'm not sure if it helps all instruments or all instruments using pickups, (do keyboards outputs see in improvement?) but it very much does make the guitar sound different. Your guitar will even react slightly different, almost quicker using better cables, it's hard to explain but easy to experience. Not all cables that cost heaps are any better though, I don't think mic cables get better sounding just more reliable.


Also I'm pretty confident Mr. Sneap does in fact use really high quality and short instrument cables for his guitar/bass recordings. I've never seen his setup, it's just makes sense that he would
 
I'm calling bullshit on that comparison. Either the other one is the shittiest instrument cable ever created or there is a lot more going there then they're letting on to.
 
Wouldn't quality cable only affect passive guitar PU's? The load on the pickups changes their sound, right?

If so, actives shouldn't be so susceptible and neither keyboards or other line devices.
I for one haven't found any change in sound whether I use a POS cable or an expensive one on my keys.
Then again, I haven't bothered making a direct A/B comparison.

I could be so off base that I'd be on my way home, which wouldn't be the first time...
 
You may be pretty off base.

With purely digital signals (HDMI, for example) the only way to lose signal - which is a collection of zeroes and ones, nothing more or less - is to make your cables out of things that just don't conduct electricity - old carpet, used condoms, bits of stale cheese, and other things that are quite obviously not what one should make cables out of. With analog, which is far more intricate, the sound can change and noise can be introduced.

If you're taking audio straight out of the keyboard, you may have just picked bad expensive cables (or, if not, it may be time for an ear cleaning); if you're taking digital signals from the keyboard and getting the sounds from somewhere else, you shouldn't have gotten expensive cables for a digital signal.

In any case, picking up some decent cable and good plugs can be cheaper than even budget-end premade cables and a fraction of the cost of what scam artists like Monster are charging.

Jeff
 
There was an actual thread comparing a cheap vs elixer cable on an acoustic DI, and it sounded pretty different fwiw.
 
the only way to lose signal is to make your cables out of things that just don't conduct electricity - old carpet, used condoms, bits of stale cheese, and other things that are quite obviously not what one should make cables out of.

HAHAHA :lol: quoting material here guys!!!

it's even funny to know that he just looked around where he was and typed it as he saw it
 
With purely digital signals (HDMI, for example) the only way to lose signal - which is a collection of zeroes and ones, nothing more or less - is to make your cables out of things that just don't conduct electricity - old carpet, used condoms, bits of stale cheese, and other things that are quite obviously not what one should make cables out of. With analog, which is far more intricate, the sound can change and noise can be introduced.

This is a common misconception. The reality is that it is still an analog signal running down the wire. The signal is just square waves between a specified voltage. But they are still susceptible to noise, interference, resistance, etc. Depending on the protocol, there is often some error correction built in to compensate to some extent.

But only to an extent, and this can cause errors, jitter, etc. I doubt a human can tell unless it is really bad, but you know people with deep pockets seem to be able to tell a difference. But all digital mediums have this, and most have some sort of correction.

Then it comes down to the design of the protocol. I am not really familiar with digital audio and video formats, but my guess is that the error correction would be pretty low since they need to be realtime. In networks, TCP/IP corrects for errors by basically asking again. UDP is typically used for streaming and realtime since it is a lot faster, but just drops packets if they have an error or don't make it. And you get slight blips or artifacts. Very much simplified of course, there are whole books on TCP/IP stacks and such.

As far as on-topic. Cables do make a difference. Much more so with the high impedance non-linear response of a guitar. That is why buffers and active pickups can be a great thing. They lower the impedance to alleviate any cable capacitance.

Personally I like a bit of high-end roll-off. Try playing with a 1ft cable right into the amp, personally I get way too much fizz and scratchiness and harshness. About 10-15 ft. I get more girth and midrange, from the slight highend rolloff and of course depending on the cable.

BIG +1 to making your own though. Great tone and much much cheaper. And it is hard to beat Canare GS-6 or Mogami for cable quality. Even working with the cable you see how awesome it is compared to even higher priced cables.

If you really want to drop some cash, check out Evidence cables. They are solid core, directional (!??), maybe even frozen to align the atoms. I could hear differences, but not enough to empty my wallet.