För Kung och Fosterland melody...

[Mormagil]

Of course. Actually he is one of those so called ny-nazis, and spends most of his day drinking beer from a paper bag and kicking my pals in the face on tunnelbana-area.
If you ever see live photos of him, you can try to look out for the burnt swastika in his chest.

 

[Naku ist krig]

I think that a man who is not a nationalist is a completley insane one...
I mean, come on, you have to love your country and be proud of it, honour it's history and traditions... The phrase For Kung och Fosterland exists in almost all of languages. (at least European).
I've seen you translated it as For King and Native Land, but you know that the Brittish say: "For the King and the Country". In my language it's "Za kralja i djedovinu". Every nation honours their ancestral traditions, but the problem today has become that it's declared as shameful to feel that way. (the crown evidence of this is the ban of that ice-cream in Sweden... just how more stupid can men get...)

Me, appearing seriously this time:
Yesh, it is absolutely normal and expected some levels to examine and appriciate your own native background -i totally agree.
It just that some people, me included, don´t see the idea of highlighting your roots powerfully (like wearing your country´s symbol) necessary. Infact, when I see here (in Finland) a man with our native symbol (a lion with swords) in his shirt, I almost automatically imagine him thinking how somehow higher his kind is compared to other´s. -It´s just my plain prejudicism.

 

[Horz]

Well, I don't know... You can see this from various aspects. In Germany, for example, a man wearing a shirt with the German flag, or emblem, can be considered a nationalist. Ok, he loves his country, so what? But a guy with a swastika on his shirt is a dumbfuck. As simple as that. But I know that it's difficult in Germany today, to express in that way, but it's wrong to blame people that live today for crimes someone did before. And probably it's the same in Finland, as it is here in my country, as we were both on the side of the Germany and Italy in the WW2. If I say I love my country, I sure don't mean on that particular part of the history, when some serious errors were made. But that's the way people think today, there are actually those whose job is to find something that can be misinterpretated, and to take legal actions against it. (and again I'd like to reflect on the "nogger" case, which still seems to awe me... first time I read that, I thought it was a joke...)

But I can't see why it's like this in Sweden... Maybe they fear they might become what they fighted earlier.

(and I just want to note here that in my country it's not so odd to express nationalism, the case being that we had to fight for our freedom, and the war ended just 10 years ago, so it sort of brought the emotions back ...)

 

[Thidrek]

It's getting "better" in Germany in that case. Nowadays more and more people say that they are proud of their home. I think, almost everyone thinks like that, but almost noone has the heart to say it
A big problem are the neo-nazis and that is, i think, one of the main problems in Sweden, too. They seem to have a big amount of those idiots.

What I cannot stand at the moment are those nationalistic rappers who hold their German identity in front of them as a shield to be "gangsta" or something like this. argh!


eerm.. by the way i don't like the word "nationalistic" because it has the smack of "national socialistic" although it's not the same.

 

[Eleria]

I think that a man who is not a nationalist is a completley insane one...
I mean, come on, you have to love your country and be proud of it, honour it's history and traditions... The phrase For Kung och Fosterland exists in almost all of languages. (at least European).
I've seen you translated it as For King and Native Land, but you know that the Brittish say: "For the King and the Country". In my language it's "Za kralja i djedovinu". Every nation honours their ancestral traditions, but the problem today has become that it's declared as shameful to feel that way. (the crown evidence of this is the ban of that ice-cream in Sweden... just how more stupid can men get...)

It's funny though, because here in Australia have "For the King and Country" -
I don't think many people would be saying "For Johnny Howard and Country"
We haven't exactly got a big history either, most of us are rejects from Britain, and since we "europeanised" this large land we have accepted many people from many nationalities, therfore we do not have a culture of our own(we seem to adapt mostly an american culture, but it depends on what part of a city you are in).

Still, sometimes it pays to be patriotic!

 

[Draugen]

It's funny though, because here in Australia have "For the King and Country" -
I don't think many people would be saying "For Johnny Howard and Country"
We haven't exactly got a big history either, most of us are rejects from Britain, and since we "europeanised" this large land we have accepted many people from many nationalities, therfore we do not have a culture of our own(we seem to adapt mostly an american culture, but it depends on what part of a city you are in).

Still, sometimes it pays to be patriotic!

What about aboriginial culture then? Surely you must "feel" it somewhere in Australia?

 

[Eleria]

What about aboriginial culture then? Surely you must "feel" it somewhere in Australia?

That is true, but it is not as common as one might think.
The only place you really see aboriginal culture is in touristy areas like Uluru(Ayres Rock). Most of the aboriginals that I have met don't immerse themselves in their culture, and some of them know little about their history.

Mind you, our government and original settlers did pretty much everything they could to destroy their culture. Check out the stolen generation. The government took away aboriginal children from their parents and relocated them to white families. The parents had no way of contacting or knowing where their kids were. Pretty horrific stuff.