First song with vocals

[zaurus]

Hi,

This is my first song with vocas, so I need your opinion.

I'm posting two versions: the first one is the full song (8:32) and the second one is without the intro (6:16).

Full song:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1199294/tld18-4.5.4.4-sinV.28.1.mp3

w/o intro:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1199294/tld18-4.5.4.4-sinV.28.1-wi.mp3

Thanks

 

[CSMadden81243]

i think the strings at the beginning might be too loud/overpowering. maybe add a bit of reverb or delay to them. guitars sound a little muddy, bass sounds alright. drums are kinda covered up when everything starts coming in though, cymbals sound pretty fake, the drums overall need some work... maybe with some sample replacement, especially on the kick and snare. this is pretty epic sounding though, kudos for that. i'm also detecting some slight breathing/pumping before the vocals, and then quite a bit when the vocals come in. it almost sounds like you have a tremolo effect going on the whole mix or something haha.

 

[zaurus]

What an exhaustive analysis!

So I still have a lot of work on it.

Thanks a lot.

 

[AgeOfGeburah]

Ez Drummer DFH I Presume. Either get some drum replacement going or buy some better software, like Superior 2.0 (I like the Avatar kit) I agree the strings are too loud.
If youre not using Cabinet Impulses I'd recomend to start doing that, Search the forum for samples and instructions how to use them, theres also some really good ampsims out there (I personally prefer the releases of onqel and LePou)
If however this is the material you have to work with, I'd prolly parallell compress those guitars to lower the 120-250hz region so they wont take over the whole mix on the palm mutes. (I assume you have High/Lowpassed them)
And as always, experiment with all the settings, compare it with an professional mix (In the style of your song) and listen to how the different frequencies play together and try to mimic the level/balance of the instruments

Good luck mate and I hope you find this useful!

 

[zaurus]

Ez Drummer DFH I Presume.

Exactly!

I don't know why, but drums replacement didn't work well on this particular song. But I'll give it another try.

If youre not using Cabinet Impulses

I'm actually using some, but not at 100% wet, the same as with the drums - I didn't like the result. I'll try "onqel and LePou".

And thanks for the other recommendations too.

 

[CSMadden81243]

Overloud TH1 is also another really good ampsim. It's like PodFarm, but has better sounds IMO.

 

[zaurus]

Thanks.

Downloading the demo now...

 

[zaurus]

Well, I finally have the song reworked, here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1199294/tld18-4.5.4.4-sinV.28.1-sd.2.ov14.5.mp3

So, what do you think? Better or worse?

 

[zaurus]

No one?

 

[nezvers]

Strings are better, but guitars are bit too sawy, maybe presence too high (im starting mixing myself and cant really say problem without playing with it )

 

[MAXMEDLOW]

stick the strings up in an octave higher! low strings always sound bad in midi, higher strings work better.

 

[zaurus]

nezvers,
It was actually just the right guitar. I tweaked it a little and this one should be less "sawy":
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1199294/tld18-4.5.4.4-sinV.28.1-sd.2.ov14.6.mp3

MAXMEDLOW,
Do you mean any special part or the whole strings track? I tried it on the beginning and it sounded awful at an ocatave higher .
Or should I try another synth?