Forbidden Siren

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

Anyone play this game? The version we got in America has British accents (and I mean thick ass accents, I've never met anyone who sounds like this) and they ruin the fucking game. I find nothing wrong with British accents, but it's retarded to have a setting in rural Japan, with very Japanese looking characters that all sound like Ringo Starr. Why couldn't they leave us with the Japenese track and subtitles? Fucking Sony! Plus the acting is horrid.

They better leave the Japanese/French dialogue in Onimusha 3 alone, goddamnit!

 

[french_anatheman]

Anyone play this game? The version we got in America has British accents (and I mean thick ass accents, I've never met anyone who sounds like this) and they ruin the fucking game. I find nothing wrong with British accents, but it's retarded to have a setting in rural Japan, with very Japanese looking characters that all sound like Ringo Starr. Why couldn't they leave us with the Japenese track and subtitles? Fucking Sony! Plus the acting is horrid.

They better leave the Japanese/French dialogue in Onimusha 3 alone, goddamnit!

Dunno this stuff
What is it exactly?

 

[Richter_Belmont]

i've heard that Siren (as its called 'ere in the UK) is directed by the guy who made Silent Hill 1 which is one of my all time favourite survival horrors, i haven't found a decent review of Siren tho and from what i've heard it doesn't sound the best, i'm looking forward to Silent Hill 4, which i hear will be the last of the series.

btw i hear Jean Reno (yes the guy from Leon) is in Onimusha 3 so it'll have at least one French accent, i expect the main very japanese looking guy will have a thick american accent tho lol. Onimusha 2 was good, i got right to the end of it tho but never bothered to kill the last boss, quite a nasty habit i have i've done that a few times.

 

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

Siren (that's what it's called here too, I just blindly assumed that it was called Forbidden Siren everywhere else as that's the Japanese title) is actually a pretty good game. I think a lot of people just have a problem overcoming it's difficulty and change of pace. It's like a stealth survival horror game, equal parts Silent Hill 1 and 2 mixed with Splinter Cell. Most of the characters that you play, of which there are ten, don't have weapons or are we disabled (one girl is blind and you have to use another character to guide her around). So you're forced to crawl silently along so as to not be noticed by one of the "zombies", who can kill you hardcore without a problem, or you could always run away or distract them. Plus you can use this ability called sight-jacking where you can channel in on their thoughtwaves and see that they're seeing. You can study their patrol routes and figure out how to get around them judging by the lighting conditions and their path of vision.

The graphics are pretty good too (kinda like an updated Goldeneye look, with human actors faces transposed onto polygon models), though a lot of characters look like they're from the 70's and one guy looks like the Iron Chef. The sound effects and ambience of the game are phenomenal. Problem is, the voice acting is terrible. I noticed one review where the guy basically praised the game and it's innovations, yet gave it a 5/10 because of the voice acting. It's really bad, and I mean "You, the master of unlocking." bad. It kinda ruins things but it's a good game nonetheless. The average score ratio at Gamerankings is a 76%, and that's not too bad considering the games flaw.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/918848.asp

So if you're really into Silent Hill and Splinter Cell and can deal with laughable dubbing, get it.

As for Onimusha 3, the original vocal track, from Japan, is in Japanese and French, not just the accents. Jean speaks in French in the beginning of the game and is later bestowed with the ability to speak and understand Japanese. The original Onimusha had the option of playing with the original Japanese voice track with subs, as I wish all games would as it just feels more authentic that way.

 

[Richter_Belmont]

i was considering getting it not so long ago, i shouldn't really listen too much to reviews, i like to form my own opinion but i do use reviews to tell me what games i should stay away from. like i said i was gonna get Siren but i ended up getting Resident Evil Zero instead...which is pretty good, except the removal of the "item box" where you put your stuff and pick up later is annoying. i probably will get Siren eventually tho since i love survival horrors.

i'll probably get Onimusha 3 too and i agree it should have japanese voices, i remember one part on Onimusha 2 where Jubei says something like "Who talks like that?" i was thinking the same thing about him, japanese guy with an american voice. the only game i've come across that has both the original japanese voices and the cheesy english voices is Soul Calibur 2, the japanese ones are so much better too.

 

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

I just found out that Onimusha 3 will only include the english voice acting. They used some bullshit excuse about space restraints, though if they used a DVD-9 instead of a 5 they would have had plenty of room. Dumb Capcom.

I think the American version of Onimusha 2 included the Japanese track. I heard only the PAL version didn't.

Ninja Gaiden, Otagi, Disgaea and Castlevania: LoI all included the Japanese tracks.

 

[Richter_Belmont]

i hope the PAL Ninja Gaiden has a japanese track, it needs SOMETHING from the original Japanese version, my worst fears were recently confirmed as it is indeed being censored in Europe. the english voice acting in LoI didn't bother me too much since the characters aren't really japanese looking and theres not an awful lot of talking in it anyway, it retained the typical Castlevania "less talk more play and figure it out for yourself" approach...it was still rather short tho but good never the less. i hope we don't have to wait years for the next PS2 Castlevania, there were about 7 years between Symphony of the Night and LoI.

i was gonna say i expected Capcom to use english voice actors for their version of Onimusha 3 and just sub it, but it has got japanese characters and a japanese theme, i know on the Resident Evil games they have the english voices and sub them, speaking of which RE4 looks amazing...wonder when that'll be out? not any time soon i imagine.

 

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

They don't censor jack shit over here in video games. Onimusha 3 is supposed to be gorier than that Japanese version, with you being able to chop demons in half and decapitate then, while in the Japanese version they just blew up in burst of blue light.

I don't know why you guys get shafted so often. Is it because of Germany?

As for RE4, yay! I can't wait. It's supposed to be out over here in the fall. I also can't wait for Midway Arcade Treasures vol. 2. Arcade perfect ports of Mortal Kombat 1,2 and 3, NARC, Primal Rage, Pit Fighter, ABP, Xenophobe, and about 13 other games, for a $20.

 

[Richter_Belmont]

its because of somewhere in Europe we get shafted, i think it was the germans who didn't like Contra 3 (Super Probotector over 'ere it was called) , they didn't like the idea of a doomed human race and you went a robot on it instead of a human survivor from the 'Alien Wars', at least i think it was germany anyway.

Oddly enough the Mortal Kombats were never censored over here, back in the day they were the most violent games ever. i still have MK1 somewhere for my Mega Drive (Genesis), damn that takes me back must've got that about 12 years ago. MK2 was my favourite tho, i swear i knew EVERY fatality on that, the one where Sub Zero threw a little snowball at them that blew their body off cracked me up every time. "Toasty!"

 

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

Fuck it! I take back anything positive that I may have implied concerning Siren. The game is a pit of hot garbage. Avoid!!!!!

I got a little further into it, and it is without a doubt, one of the dumbest games I have ever played. The gimmick wears thin after about 15 minutes and you're forced to use it for the remainder of the game. They took a 4-5 hour game and stretched it into a 20+ hour game by making you stand around waiting for an oppurtunity to crawl like a little pussy past your enemies. The characters and the story suck too.

Fuck this game and the horse it rode in on.