German rapper steals from Dimmu Borgir songs

[Corny]

I posted it long before.


Time to make some things clearer:

Rappers sample all the time. In most famous cases, they pay for the sampled stuff, so indeed it's legal.
In that special Dimmu Borgir case, it wasn't legal. The management of Dimmu Borgir has recognized it via the internet and the lawyers are talking to come to an agreement (financally, I guess). Bushido is not an underground-rapper, he sold many, many records and made a lot of money.

He should at least have mentioned that he took a Dimmu Borgir song. He didn't, that's stealing.





And overall, I'm not against sampling.

 

[The Nerevarine]

Because all your posts consist of you trying to make yourself seem special somehow, when you're not. You're just a 13 year old tard who knows fuck all about anything.

And you are 17 ?

 

[Shadowz]

"Whoever crosses us will face serious consequences." by Silenoz

Btw, I hope they sue his ass to kingdom fukking come, damn Germany..

(Germany isn't really bad.. has some nice stuff.. and some great bands.. but the rappers, should just go hang themselfes or something)

No offence to anyone from Germany

 

[shredtastical]

Because it's taken from the actual Children of Decadence audio recording. If they simply used the same melody then it would be a different story. But no, they just sped up something they actually stole from another bands work.

And copyright didnt fucking exist in the 1700s you cunt.

@failure: You really think Beethoven's descendants get paid still when people play his 5th (which I saw last sunday coincidentally; fucking epic!)? I couldn't have said it better than Swabs really, the whole convo.

And on band's "stealing," I think this guy has something useful to say

[ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM[/ame]

Rap is so lawl in the first place

 

[The Emptier]

man you guys are so single-minded musically. its all metalz (not all of you i know but most) and everyone seems to hate rap. it actually is a form of music and they still write music. sometimes it is mindless cursing and shit but sometimes there's some real messages. try to appreciate all music you dont have to like but you dont have to rip on it all the time

 

[Altitudes]

Fuck Rap

 

[shredtastical]

man you guys are so single-minded musically. its all metalz (not all of you i know but most) and everyone seems to hate rap. it actually is a form of music and they still write music. sometimes it is mindless cursing and shit but sometimes there's some real messages. try to appreciate all music you dont have to like but you dont have to rip on it all the time

whattt the fuck, this is ultimate METAL forum in case you haven't noticed. and i really don't care about drugs sex rape etc, or whatever eminem is rapping about nowadays.

Retards
Attempting
Poetry

it has no "musical" content, just lyrical, if you can even call it content. i much prefer metal, classical, jazz, etc. that actually takes musicianship skill as opposed to the worthless lump of shit that is rap. the only real message is "sex sex rape drugs etc." "I'm going to the candy shop, gonna let you lick the lolly pop," i mean wtf, i'd rather listen to goats bleat. most rap artists are illiterate, talentless waste who's minuscule mental capabilities stop at the natural instinct level and therefore cannot think of anything past the aforementioned. Edgar Allen Poe is a billion times the "poet" than any rapper ever will be.

 

[The Emptier]

ok if thats your opinion then i respect that

 

[shredtastical]

ok if thats your opinion then i respect that

wtf would you expect, metal and rap don't really mix hey. besides, as i said in my previous post, find me a more compelling message than the raven.

 

[The Emptier]

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/hailiessong.html

i think rapping about how your daughter give you hope is a message

 

[shredtastical]

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/hailiessong.html

i think rapping about how your daughter give you hope is a message

do you even know who edgar allen poe is?

if i wanted a compelling "message," i'd go for some robert frost or something. I refer you to a post i made in the guitar player's thread:

Ah, see, thats exactly my point. Are you a classical player? not that im assuming, but being a classical player myself I'm honsetly not that impressed with his "hybrid" picking. if i wanted complex counterpoint with intertwining lead melodies etc. i'd listen to Masakazu Ito, John Williams, Ricardo Iznaola, etc. Which isn't to say my "hybrid" technique surpasses his, however i'd liken it to the scenario of someone who goes to see break dancing for the tumbling. In reality, if they wanted to view complex tumbling, they should go to a gymnastics meet instead

rapping is poetry for the illiterate masses.

 

[The Emptier]

ok but how does you back up metal. a lot of people dont think of metal as "music"

 

[Kochon]

German is evil!

 

[shredtastical]

ok but how does you back up metal. a lot of people dont think of metal as "music"

wtf, nice retarded non sequitor. i have half a mind to let everyone here flame you for complete ignorance and public retardedness. bashing on metal in a METAL FORUM wtf

metal, as you term it, is comprised of beautiful melodies, and complex and intricate orchestrations, etc. try and "beat box" me a backing to Spread Your Fire, by Angra. Metal takes talent; one must play an instrument, orchestrate EPIC compositions, etc. metal takes musicianship; a quality of technical showmanship on one's respective instrument. sophisticated lyrical works; The Odyssey, by SX. metal is a style for the talented.

as opposed to what, rap? stick a few words about your daughter over "boom chicka wow waw," and you have a fucking hit? Compared the sheer beautiful complexity of "Beyond The Dark Sun," or "Hate Me," with what, "I'm the Real Slim Shady yo?" you've got to be kidding me. I could play that bass line with one finger. this is why stupid people piss me off; how the hell can you, in any way shape or form, associate "musicality" with "rap." How many rap tunes can you hum ffs? oh sure, you're going to tell me rap has beat; EVERY MUSICAN HAS BEAT. get over it. RAP IS MUSIC FOR DUMMIES. hell, every song is goddamn unintentionally atonal. RAP TAKES ABSOLUTELY 0 TALENT WHATSOEVER.

edit: you also know absolutely nothing about musical theory obviously, or you would never tell me metal isn't music.

 

[shredtastical]

German is evil!

don't be a cunt.

 

[Kochon]

don't be a cunt

learn to take jokes

Edit: And not to double post, There's a wonderful Edit Button

 

[The Emptier]

when was i bashing metal??? put your head on straight and get your playtex in right

 

[Undefined]

wtf, nice retarded non sequitor. i have half a mind to let everyone here flame you for complete ignorance and public retardedness. bashing on metal in a METAL FORUM wtf

metal, as you term it, is comprised of beautiful melodies, and complex and intricate orchestrations, etc. try and "beat box" me a backing to Spread Your Fire, by Angra. Metal takes talent; one must play an instrument, orchestrate EPIC compositions, etc. metal takes musicianship; a quality of technical showmanship on one's respective instrument. sophisticated lyrical works; The Odyssey, by SX. metal is a style for the talented.

as opposed to what, rap? stick a few words about your daughter over "boom chicka wow waw," and you have a fucking hit? Compared the sheer beautiful complexity of "Beyond The Dark Sun," or "Hate Me," with what, "I'm the Real Slim Shady yo?" you've got to be kidding me. I could play that bass line with one finger. this is why stupid people piss me off; how the hell can you, in any way shape or form, associate "musicality" with "rap." How many rap tunes can you hum ffs? oh sure, you're going to tell me rap has beat; EVERY MUSICAN HAS BEAT. get over it. RAP IS MUSIC FOR DUMMIES. hell, every song is goddamn unintentionally atonal. RAP TAKES ABSOLUTELY 0 TALENT WHATSOEVER.

edit: you also know absolutely nothing about musical theory obviously, or you would never tell me metal isn't music.

Just because you think rap sucks, doesn't mean it's so. For every point you raised against why rap isn't music and sucks, someone else could raise three against metal. It's called opinion, and while I don't particularly like rap or it's message in 80% of the music, it is as valid as any other genre.

 

[Altitudes]

Sometimez a like me a phat ***** beat when I groovin', you dig?

 

[Undefined]

^in b4 b&