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Churches give out free gift cards now? I want in on this shit!

yea man, it was actually to my lady and came with a letter assuring us that we should come by for some worship sometime. I just finished a sausage egg and cheese biscuit and some cinnamon bread or whatever. and it was actually pretty good and not too expensive. I dont know why people hate this place.
 
Nothing. Guru has shit for brains. Anyone who knows anything about playing a guitar knows how good Jeff is. He is a monster on the guitar.

Nothing is WRONG with his playing. Hes a solid guitarist. His songwriting nowadays is the problem. I preferred his playing on POE and DNB. Less "I am going to play a billion miles an hour and you are going to like it" and more " hey listen to this cool melody and theme I created"
 
You basically just said that you don't care for insanely great metal musicianship. Warrel's performance on TGE (which is amazing) can be directly attributed to the producer.

This argument is dumb. Insanely great metal musicianship? Hello Dream Theater. Some of the best metal musicians in the world. Can they write a song to save their lives? No. You can have all of the musicianship in the world and SUCK FUCKING ASS at writing songs.
 
Nothing is WRONG with his playing. Hes a solid guitarist. His songwriting nowadays is the problem. I preferred his playing on POE and DNB. Less "I am going to play a billion miles an hour and you are going to like it" and more " hey listen to this cool melody and theme I created"

this i can half agree on. But I still think of things like the Born chorus, which may be really technical, but combined with the OTHER elements of the band, the riff creates an amazing and memorable moment in music.
 
Lay off the wine. It made perfect sense.

You know Guru, you're like the classic example of a person who loves to yell and scream the loudest, but then back off in 2 seconds when being attacked and say "hahah you guys don't like me but I dont care... or do I? wait I dont.... or do i???"

Cut the personal insults, they have no place here, or the usage of the word "cunt" or "wanker" every 3 words and try to, for once, argue in a fashion that A) won't make you look or sound like a parson who forgot to take their Zanex,
and B) will make sense and so people can actually understand you, because I do want to.... .*takes a deep breath* understand you.
 
I't was actually at a show in Texas .... but no its not that :p

I don't hate Jeff, I just hate that Nevermore to all the new fans is "JEFF LOOMIS". Yes the guy brought in a bunch of new fans and that's not bad, but they all came in for the wrong reasons.

Nevermore was never about guitar wankery. It was about QUALITY progressive metal / thrash with thought provoking lyrical content and something to say.

Little by little Jeff has moved the band away from that in favor of more guitars solos, instrumental sections and practically impossible to sing over riffing. WD has been left to struggle to try and sing over riffs that are way to busy and try and make it musical, and still have the same amount of impact feeling and emotion.

If Nevermore would have stayed true to its roots, then WD would not have had to go out and do a solo album. He would have been able to do everything musically he wanted within the confines of the band.

THIS ...is the facts.

you're fucked. Jeff's writing made WD struggle to write vocal melodies over? LOL Im sure WD would disagree. listen to , i dont know, any Nevermore song and see if anything WD does sounds forced? it's all so fluid. Which is what i was saying in my long post above. I remember an interview where he said that he and Jeff work together on this shit, and he also said that he writes the vocal melodies pretty quickly. I don't think he fucking struggled to write over Jeff. That's an insult to mr dane.
 
You know Guru, you're like the classic example of a person who loves to yell and scream the loudest, but then back off in 2 seconds when being attacked and say "hahah you guys don't like me but I dont care... or do I? wait I dont.... or do i???"

Cut the personal insults, they have no place here, or the usage of the word "cunt" or "wanker" every 3 words and try to, for once, argue in a fashion that A) won't make you look or sound like a parson who forgot to take their Zanex,
and B) will make sense and so people can actually understand you, because I do want to.... .*takes a deep breath* understand you.

High Fuckin five for the lioness.
 
This argument is dumb. Insanely great metal musicianship? Hello Dream Theater. Some of the best metal musicians in the world. Can they write a song to save their lives? No. You can have all of the musicianship in the world and SUCK FUCKING ASS at writing songs.

What argument? It was a statement. And I NEVER, EVER considered Dream Theater to be real metal. And even if I did, those guys have had an extremely long and illustrious career, they continue to sell out their shows, and their fan base is still growing. Just because YOU say they can't write songs doesn't mean that it's even remotely true.
 
Jeff writes ALL the music (nowadays) for Nevermore, without him I don't see Nevermore continuing. But I will absolutely agree that Warrel is the soul and identity of the band. I don't really mind nevermore breaking up, we're gonna get new sanctuary, more solo albums, and hopefully Attilla and Warrel can collarbrate on more stuff. I absolutely believe Attila could write material for nevermore, but I don't see it happening though.
 
What argument? It was a statement. And I NEVER, EVER considered Dream Theater to be real metal. And even if I did, those guys have had an extremely long and illustrious career, they continue to sell out their shows, and their fan base is still growing. Just because YOU say they can't write songs doesn't mean that it's even remotely true.

What? Weedely weedely fanboys can buy tickets too. Evidently, they can buy a lot of them. I don't know, maybe I'm in the minority, but I love this little concept called STRUCTURED SONGS.
 
Fuckin Guru stompin through the place out of the blue again when some news pops up, dropping pointless insults and throwing his stupid opinions all over the place like anyone actually gives a shit.

Spineless, back-pedalling bitch. Go back where you came from.

I fucking love to hate you.