Going for a KSE tone with the Rockmaster

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Here's another short clip with the Peavey Rockmaster: http://www.tainted-studio.com/misc/MyPurse4.mp3

I was trying to get a KSE-ish guitar tone (The original song is My Curse). IMO it lacks some top-end bite and is a tad overgained, but I'd appreciate any further tips on how to get closer to the original tone!

Oh, and don't mind the extremely sloppy playing

EDIT: Most recent one: http://www.tainted-studio.com/misc/MyPurse5.mp3

 

[Chryst Krispies]

THIS-IS -MY- PURSE.

 

[LosingReality]

Close dude, real close.....Sounds good!

 

[Djabthrash]

My purse haha

Very nice tone.

 

[Joematthews]

Its a little too mid heavy, but its still a nice tone, and quite close to the original.

Joe

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Thanks a lot for the replies! Yeah, it's too mid-heavy for my tastes, but I found it quite hard to scoop the Rockmaster without making it sound thin. The tone controls are pretty radical!

Here's a slightly improved tone: http://www.tainted-studio.com/misc/MyPurse5.mp3

More presence and a bit less mids. It's still far from perfect but I'm starting to feel happy with it

 

[gabriel g.]

The only thing thats missing are much thicker strings and something that compress the sound (tubescreamer or waves renes. Axx)
but its very close!!!

 

[Metaltastic]

Listening to the second, it sounds too muffled and has a bit of the annoying 1k mids I usually associate with Revalver - might be the impulse your using?

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

The only thing thats missing are much thicker strings and something that compress the sound (tubescreamer or waves renes. Axx)
but its very close!!!

Hmm, as far as I know, at least Adam uses .12-.52 strings in dropped C tuning, and I'm using a .10-.60 in dropped B, so it's probably just my untight playing But you're completely right about the TS, this thing screams for one (no pun intended). I'm borrowing a Bad Monkey from a friend this weekend so I can try it out.

Listening to the second, it sounds too muffled and has a bit of the annoying 1k mids I usually associate with Revalver - might be the impulse your using?

Hmm, kinda surprised to hear that, since I only did a small cut at around 600Hz and boosted the presence on Revalver's 5150 power amp a bit. I fiddled around with different impulses until I ended up using NewIR_1.wav and ThisOne.wav, but I should definitely fiddle around with different impulses more!

 

[Metaltastic]

Wait, you're using Revalver (at least partially) for this? That might explain why I thought it had that sound then Why not just the Rockmaster straight into Boogex?

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Wait, you're using Revalver (at least partially) for this? That might explain why I thought it had that sound then Why not just the Rockmaster straight into Boogex?

Yeah, for the poweramp part. The difference is quite minimal, but I still dig the tone a bit more when using the "power amp"

 

[LosingReality]

I think the first clip sounded closer, and better.

 

[onqel]

I think the first one got to much mids, and the last one needs a little more..(when I compare your tone to the album) So my guess is that you will find that middy sweet spot just in between those two settings you already posted

 

[Habsburgs]

I think the second clip fits better.. and I would like to try your settings with my rockmaster

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Thanks for the replies! Yeah, the mids really are quite a bitch to handle with this one, but I'm quite digging it's tone otherwise. Can't wait to try it out with a TS.

Habsburgs, I used the following settings:
Ultra channel
Pre: 4.6 pulled
Post: 6
Bottom: 0.1
Body: -6.5
Edge: 4.5

After that I put Revalver MKIII and loaded the 5150 power amp module with resonance and presence at 7.

 

[VH100R]

Nice tone. you got very closer to the character of that album.

what IR are you using?

need to experiment with my rockmaster too!

 

[thedonutman]

The tone is great.

Are you playing the riff differently, it doesn't sound like it does on the original recording?

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Cheers guys! I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think it was ThisOne and NewIR1.

I think I'm playing the riff correctly, but it's in different tuning (drop B), so it sounds different

 

[VH100R]

what pickup are you using?

and which preamp tubes do you have in your rockmaster? mine sounds alot more raw. bought it used so probably needs new tubes.

I can't get mine to sound that "spongy"... I call the tone on KSE's As Daylight Days "spongy" BTW

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

what pickup are you using?

and which preamp tubes do you have in your rockmaster? mine sounds alot more raw. bought it used so probably needs new tubes.

I can't get mine to sound that "spongy"... I call the tone on KSE's As Daylight Days "spongy" BTW

It's an EMG-81 on the bridhe position. AFAIK the tubes are a couple of months old JJ's, I got the unit from Jevil a while back. I'm thinking of experimenting with Tung Sols, though.